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Billy Hargrove

also the amount of Billy hate I’ve seen the past few weeks is insane. It looks like we are back at S2. And this makes me very afraid of how people will treat Dacre at the con. Because some people just forget that Billy is a fictional character and Dacre is a real human being. If I hear about someone being an ass to him there I’m gonna punch someone.

You know, it annoys me every time someone calls Billy a racist asshole, he wasn't, I know for a fact he wasn't.

He never once said anything racist, never acted out in disgust at any other black characters, not even Lucas himself, not Lucas' family, not any background characters, non of that, he never made any comments about race either,

And don't bring up the "That kid is one of them" into this, because do you know what he saw? He saw some random kid arguing with his sister, he saw some kid making her upset to the point she walked up to the car teary eyed and tried lying about what happened, that's what he saw, he stood there in the background watching the entire time and I'm sure he may have heard a thing or two due to their arguing, Max said it herself that Lucas treats her badly, that is what he saw and of course, despite him taking his anger out on her, he cares, it's shown he cares because he saved all of their lives by sacrificing his own in the end.

Billy was never racist, he just didn't get the full picture of why Max was already walking to his car damn near crying when they've just moved into the town.

Tldr: Billy wasn't racist, just saw Max coming to his car nearly crying and thought she was being bullied already.

“I think that maybe a part of me died that day too”

So, basically Eddie is basically the Billy we wanted and wrote in fic…I see

Why have Billy look alive when he's dead when the others looked dead but are alive? Why would Vecna do that? Wouldn't it be more affective to have Max see the corpse of her dead brother? And the tear???? Why would Vecna bother putting that little detail in???

Me @ Billy Hargrove/Severus Snape haters

🗣 It’s FICTION people

No one said you had to like the complex characters who are products of their environment.

The hypocrisy is amazing. Cause you know that if it were Ted Wheeler ogling, flirting, AND agreeing to sleep with Heather in S3, fans would be out for his blood (for good reason). But, because it was a woman preying on a teenage boy, the narrative pushes her predatory behavior under the rug and said woman apparently gets a bigger role for the next season.

me when i remember billy was 17 when karen put him in her spank bank and decided to openly thirst after him for an entire year following

The cast did a recap of seasons 1-3 and when Joe explained Billy’s sacrifice, basically states what I put in quotations. If you wanna see it, it starts at 6:55 :)

“Billy…FULLY redeems himself”- Joe Keery (Steve Harrington)

It warms my heart to see the beloved Joe Keery being Billy’s #1 fan and antis frothing at the mouth for it, that some fucking good food lmao

“Billy…FULLY redeems himself”- Joe Keery (Steve Harrington)

It warms my heart to see the beloved Joe Keery being Billy’s #1 fan and antis frothing at the mouth for it, that some fucking good food lmao

How The Duffel Bags left Billy Post-Starcourt:

How fans fix it:

And I think that’s beautiful

Thinking about how Zuko was very close with his mother, grew up with all female friends, and instantly fell into a nurturing, parental role with his little half sister. No wonder he made such an excellent father for Izumi.

It really gets to me how many strong female influences Zuko had in his life and how that must have shaped him. He would have made such a good partner for Katara. He would have loved and cared for their children deeply.

Stole this from an anti who was pissed because "trying to avenge his death" is now the only thing I will be thinking about until I see it happen

Oh! Yes my love. That true 🖤

Can you IMAGINE the outrage antis would have if Snape was the one who:

Attacked his crush’s childhood friend unprovoked

Gagged said friend with soap

Hung said friend upside down and exposed their undergarments

Tried to coerce crush into a date with the promise to stop tormenting their friend

Threatened to pull down said friend’s underwear in front of already riled up crowd

They would be frothing at the mouth.

But because it was Mr. James “Blank Slate” Potter, he gets a pass because antis can fill their uwu headcannons into him like how he would have been a feminist HAH.

“BuT jAmEs gReW uP aNd mAtURed bY hIS 7th yEaR”

Umm…no hun, he didn’t. The evidence comes straight from the mouths of Sirius and Remus. You know…his BEST FRIENDS.

He was still hexing Snape behind Lily’s back in 7th year. Whether or not Snape started it first is irrelevant. A mature person would have talked to Lily about what was happening instead of hiding it. Why hide it if you’re not in the wrong?

On another note, NO ONE is really “grown up” at age 17. I’m a 23 year old woman (not that older than James when he died) and I can tell you that there was still ALOT of growing up I had to do when I was 17-21 years old and STILL need to do to this day.

Moral of this rant is that antis are hypocrites and need to stfu.

A rant (kinda?)

Billy's story was told based on his importance to the overall plot of Stranger Things rather than the importance of the issues the story brought up and I'm still kinda pissed about that. Obviously, each character can only get so much time. But if you know from the start that you're only going to give a certain character a small amount of screen time, you shouldn't add elements as huge and complicated as parental abuse/abandonment. Or, if you do, you should also consider devoting a very large portion of that character's on-screen time to those things or giving the character more time.

Because I'm just really sick and tired of posts where Billy is erased or censored or called irredeemably evil. It's really not fair to fans of his with abuse in their pasts who related to him. It's not right that what people seem to have taken from his storyline is that there is a right and wrong way to be a teenage victim of child abuse, and that if your anger at your home situation causes you to lash out (generally in ways that you would need a fairly high level of emotional maturity not to), you're not worth anyone's time.

And it sucks that parallels were drawn and then dropped in ways that encouraged the fandom to compare Billy to other characters in different (currently non-abusive) situations and with different levels of support, and find him lacking. Because it inevitably places a lot of really unfair blame on a victim (why didn't he just make friends like Eleven did that could have helped him? Why didn't he reject his father's violence like Jonathan (apparently single-handedly) did? Why wasn't he able to still be gentle like Will?). Especially because the situations of all of those characters are drastically different than Billy's was.

Billy wasn't his abuse, but the abuse was an inescapable part of him. Much like a plant choked by weeds isn't defined by the weeds but is massively affected by them. And you can't expect a plant still covered by weeds to be anything like a formerly choked plant that has been moved to empty soil and given water and a clear path to the sun's light. You can't expect it to be anything like a plant that's been properly cared for all its life. If the choked plant happens to have enormous reserves of strength and resilience and manages to bloom as brightly as the other plants despite the weeds, that's wonderful, but it's never something that should be expected without help. Ever. And I wish Stranger Things had been clearer on that.

Friendly reminder that Billy was teaching kids how to swim in Season 3. I can’t get over the image of Hawkins’ resident bad boy, standing waist deep in the shallow end of the pool as he teaches a kid with floaties around their arms how to swim.

Honestly, the entire time watching S3, I was clinging onto the hope that, by some miracle, he was going to be saved, that the main cast will say “yeah, Billy was a major dick to most of us, but NO ONE deserves to be used by that monster in such a gruesome way” and that he was make it out alive. BARELY, but alive.

But WHAT did they do??

Delay every possible second they had to kill the Mind Flayer (and possibly save Billy) and put in some corny ass singing montage for some cheap laughs. Some forced cutesy montage was given more importance than giving Billy a fighting chance to make it out alive.

….let me tell you, I have never felt a bigger slap in the face by a TV show EVER.

The Duffers gave Billy’s character the ultimate middle finger. By not giving him a chance to change and repent for his actions. By not giving his relationship with Max a chance to heal and grow into a more healthy dynamic. By not letting Billy become a better person, than BOTH of his parents.

There was SO much potential to show that people who turn out like Billy ARE capable of change, to undo the toxic coping mechanisms that they learned, to heal their relationships, and, most importantly IMO, that they are worth fighting for.

The Duffers really demonstrated that they don’t know how to handle the complexities of their own characters and that they don’t really give a shit anyway. It’s all about the cheap laughs and lazily recycling 80’s tropes.

The theories of Billy (and Dacre) possibly returning is the only reason why I will try and watch S4. And if Billy only returns as flashbacks, I will stay for those scenes and then leave the rest of the story up for my imagination.

Look I know how much we all hate Neil. I hate him too, with all my heart. But just a fact - billy's mother abandoned her son. She left him. With Neil, knowing what kind of person he was. She made a choice to save herself, but to leave her little son to drown.

Neil could've given billy for adoption/foster home/abandoned him too. He didn't. He kept him. As a punching bag. Was it the only reason? My guess is, he was.just.responsible. Just like his own dad had probably taught him to be.

I don't know what's better in this case, honestly, to be given up for foster care or to be abused by your father during YEARS.

I hate Neil, but I hate Billy's mom more.

And Billy???? I've read a lot of fics how he hates his dad. And, yes, he should. He does hate his dad. However, that's the thing about parents - no matter how much you hate them, deep down, in your core, you love them. The relationship between parents and children is so hopelessly complicated.

Why am I writing all this? To cry about billy one more time. I think he loved his mom, despite the fact that she selfishly chose her own interests over the well-being of her son. I even think Billy loved his dad, under all those layers of hate, despite the fact that he was an abusive piece of shit.

I'm writing it to once again put into words my disgust for the duffers, because BECAUSE you don't take a broken teenager, show everyone HOW and why he was broken and torn, and then kill him off to a tune of Neverending story or whatever this stupid song was called.

The more I think about Billy, the more heartbroken I become because it's abysmal, how deep his suffering was. Instead of fixing it, they chose the Neverending story finale, sending what kind of message to all the broken teens out there ..???? That it's all fucking hopeless?? That you can drown in your pain and nobody will give a damn?

Fuck them, honestly. You can't really make a cheap goo monster horror story based on the suffering of a child.

Aaand I made myself cry again. Yay.

I want Joyce Byers to bitchsmack all the creepy Hawkins moms for having the damn nerves to ogle at Billy, a barely legally aged boy while he’s doing his job. Except for Karen.

I want her to throw a chair at her.

The Duffers, projecting: Billy role is to be the big bad bully to us our heroes and he’s gonna be mean and loud and an overall maniac because he is the reincarnation of all things EVIILL.

Dacre Montgomery, having the heart of gold that he does: *walks on set

With all the revived hype surrounding Billy from the latest S4 trailer, I’m reminded why I will forever be grateful that the role was given to someone like Dacre Montgomery. With all the speculation of Billy not only returning, but possibly returning as ANOTHER corrupted version of himself, Dacre is the only reason why I still have hope for Billy’s arc.

He is the reason why Billy is as complex and nuanced as he is in canon. Judging from past interviews, it seems like the Duffers were content to just let Billy be this two dimensional bully who’s an irredeemable maniac (and possibly still believe he is to some extent). But it was Dacre who humanized him. He understood that no one is simply born evil, that people like Billy have deeper issues going on in their lives. He suggested to add the scene with his dad abusing him and to give him a backstory of how he was abandoned by the only person who loved him. He demonstrated how all that shit twisted a sweet little boy into an angry, aggressive teenager. It would be enough to turn anybody into a Billy Hargrove.

Dacre gave the audience a reason to sympathize with Billy and demonstrated how he still has the potential to become a better person and overcome his toxic ways.

So, no matter what role Billy plays this season (whether it be alive, in flashbacks, or in some monster form), I trust that Dacre will put all his effort to maintain and continue Billy’s character development.

Can’t believe I had to log on after a month just to post a common sense reminder-

properly tag ur shit

If I see one more anti billy post on the regular Billy tags without the proper hashtag, imma scream. Let me enjoy my content in peace.

I don’t know why my mind insists on making me sad, but I just can’t stop thinking about Max in S3 being SO in denial about Billy being the new host for the Mind Flayer or ANYTHING being off about him. Even when El, someone who knows MUCH more about the Upside Down and the Mind Flayer, claims something odd is going on with Billy, she persistently tried to rationalize all the weird things discovered.

Such as when they found ice bags in his bathtub:

Max says that they were “probably for his muscles or something [cause] he works out like a maniac”.

Even if Max really believed that it was some weird workout thing, if I found my sibling’s tub full of ice, I would have definitely been more weirded out; she was mostly dismissive about it.

Or when El said that Billy seemed wrong when they found him at Heather’s house, Max reassures in a humorous way:

“Wrong is kind of like his default, but it’s nice to know he’s not a murderer, because that would have totally sucked”

Despite seeing that Heather was indeed ok, there was still the BLOODY WHISTLE found in her brother’s room. And she was adamant that, as long as Heather didn’t seem harmed in any way, it was enough to disregard ANY suspicions of Billy doing wrong.

Or the Party points out how weird it is for Billy to be fully covered from head to toe at the pool

Max: I don’t know, he looks pretty normal to me.

Lucas: Normal? How many times have you seen him with a shirt on?

Max: I mean it’s a little weird….

Max knows Billy better than anyone in Hawkins. She KNOWS that Billy shows off his body any chance he gets. It is NOT normal to dress more conservatively out of the blue.

It is only during the Sauna Test that she couldn’t deny the fact that Billy is, without a doubt, the new host.

It is so heartbreaking because we can tell that their relationship has improved from where it was left in S2 (when she nearly crushed his nuts with a spiky baseball bat).

I can already imagine that between S2 and S3, they came to a sort of truce. Their relationship wouldn’t do a complete 180 of course. But it would be the type of truce where they would try to be less hostile towards each other, keep their tempers in check, and minimize the arguing between them. That would eventually lead to them having a mutual understanding and respect of each other.

Billy and Max share a lot of similarities (both are headstrong and outspoken) and been put in the same miserable situation (moving away from their home in California), that once they were able to put their bitterness towards each other aside, they formed a kinship and found out that, hey, maybe having this little shitbird/asshole as a sibling isn’t so bad.Their relationship was finally improving and on the path for the better.

Until the Mind Flayer put that progress to a screeching halt.

Alright, I’m done with my depressing rant.🥲

Me seeing all these “Billy is coming back for S4” theories:

When Mihael Keehl shows more respect for our BAMF Naomi Misora than her own fiancé.

Check out my playlist I made for everyone’s favorite anti-couple!

The fact that they only appeared in like 10 episodes is a sin

Cosmo: So, are you the little spoon or the big spoon?

Anti-Cosmo: I’m a knife you ignorant boob!

Anti-Wanda, across the room, eating a sandwich: He’s the lil’ spoon.

My poor son

Can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that Penny Haywood is Pro Snape