El Toro De Piedra

You think Gabriel would've actually ceased him from existance? That was only a threat. Meanwhile Felix DID actually snap him out of existance along with many other INNOCENT random people. What did they do to deserve it?

Yeah, "as long as ANYONE having the peacock there's a risk" yeah right. Cause Nathalie would snap him out of existance cause she's bored. Or Luka or Marinette or Adrien if they had the peacock. Your logic is flawed.

So him being abused by Colt gives him the right to lash out? To bully Adrien, to terrorize Paris, to kidnap Kagami? But Chloe isn't allowed to act out when both her parents are sh*t. Interesting

I just expanded Chloe a little cause you mentioned her. Point is that in the end, by the standards of MLB she didn't deserve her miraculous while Felix did when he did worse than Chloe.

Lol that was a selfish reason. If Gabriel wasn't a threat to their love they wouldn't have cared to tell that story and alarm LB. Think people, think

It does actually matter cause it shows the lucky charms are just whatever. The lore is inconsistent so not 100% trustworthy

Her always giving the benefit of the doubt doesn't make her a good hero, at least the s5 finale should convey this message. It actually shows why she's a weak hero. Cause it's easier to just believe "ah they might come to their senses on their own" than to make them face the consequences of their actions and bring them to justice. Cause she doesn't do anything about Tomoe either but that is another conversation too

Thank you for showcasing again why the MLB fandom is lost. If you can't see why Felix is a sh*tty person and doesn't deserve his miraculous, your problem

Can someone explain to me Marinette's grand idea of letting Felix keep the peacock?

• Stole all the miraculous, handing them over to the villain. If Gabriel was out for world domination he would've played part in helping him reach his goal and thus basically ending the world

• Terrorized whole Paris, making everyone disappear, something not even the main villain of the show did all 5 seasons long. And he did that in 1 day. He was literally singing a happy song and dancing while spreading fear. If that's not something a maniac villain does

• Kidnapped Kagami and thought it was okay. Only likes her cause she's senti - he's basically racist (granted Marinette probably doesn't know this but we do and every other point should be enough for her not to trust him)

• Bullied Adrien since they were kids, which can go as far as putting camembert under his pillow and sending a hate message to his friends just cause he can, thus invading his privacy on his phone. Pretends to be him just cause he can too ofc for selfish reasons

• If all these weren't bad enough, he ASSAULTED Ladybug just to mess with Adrien. Sure he cares for his cousin : D

• Chances are if he betrayed her once, he might betray her again. Will put nothing past him

• Literally lives in London. Should he fly to Paris every time something's happening?

So why not give back the peacock to Nathalie? She's healthy again, on the good side, she's responsible and trustworthy, she read the Grimoire so knows more about any of the miraculous than anyone on the team, she's an ADULT and granted they seriously need one, she already has experience with the peacock and Duusuu likes her, has combat skills and they're more than impressive (slay queen) and she's smart af. Plus SHE'S RIGHT THERE!!!

Omg totally! Our gang is NOT done! Gabenath is real, we've literally seen it, s5 isn't real anyway (weird in general and ooc for especially Gabriel and Chloe)

There are fanfic writers more competent than the MLB writers (specifically Astruc)

Now that "Sublimation" is officially out I have a few notes to add (trying not to be too spoilery):

Wish we could've seen how Adrien and Sublime started becoming friends. I don't think we will see this piece of information later on but well, one can hope. Adrien always gets sidelined and now it's him who made a new friend for himself, outside the sidelines. Regardless, they seem to have such a sweet friendship. Yep, still shipping Adrien/Sublime, now even more! Why are they pushing Adrienette so hard when it's toxic af!? So far Sublime and Adrien seem to have a nice connection, the kind of connection which is perfect to build on a relationship (yes, my head's full of ideas and "head"canons). Even Sublime's parents seem they would get along nicely with Gabriel and Nathalie (Gabenath is real - can't convince me otherwise) With character developments Gabriel and Caroline could bond over how their cold demeanour aggravated their relationship with their kids and led to their own downfall too. Nathalie and Severin both have great bonds with their kids already (yes, Adrien is Nathalie's son) so they can either bond over that or trash-talk their partners, both options are good. And ofc both Adrien and Sublime can bond over sooo many things. Both play instruments, both do sports, both seem to have similar childhoods, both raised to be perfect still grew up to be the sweetest, both giving off golden retriever energy, both seemingly being into Greek history (stan them for this)

Ah yes, I'm full of ideas. We could have all this...with competent writers but alas, at least we got fanfiction and our headcanons

Sidenote: did anyone else get the feeling when Adrien explained Marinette's creepy behavior to Sublime (why would you do that Adrien?) her eyes were literally screaming "Adrien, blink twice if you're in danger" cause wtf was Marinette pulling!?

(S5 isn't canon, it's just a bad nightmare)

Honestly, were the writers of MLB s5 like high or something!? Wtf did they do!? I'm afraid to ask what they plan with the next seasons lol

Anyway....let's just ignore it and live happily in our own headcanons cause at this point the show just became ridiculously overwhelming

Can someone explain to me Marinette's grand idea of letting Felix keep the peacock?

• Stole all the miraculous, handing them over to the villain. If Gabriel was out for world domination he would've played part in helping him reach his goal and thus basically ending the world

• Terrorized whole Paris, making everyone disappear, something not even the main villain of the show did all 5 seasons long. And he did that in 1 day. He was literally singing a happy song and dancing while spreading fear. If that's not something a maniac villain does

• Kidnapped Kagami and thought it was okay. Only likes her cause she's senti - he's basically racist (granted Marinette probably doesn't know this but we do and every other point should be enough for her not to trust him)

• Bullied Adrien since they were kids, which can go as far as putting camembert under his pillow and sending a hate message to his friends just cause he can, thus invading his privacy on his phone. Pretends to be him just cause he can too ofc for selfish reasons

• If all these weren't bad enough, he ASSAULTED Ladybug just to mess with Adrien. Sure he cares for his cousin : D

• Chances are if he betrayed her once, he might betray her again. Will put nothing past him

• Literally lives in London. Should he fly to Paris every time something's happening?

So why not give back the peacock to Nathalie? She's healthy again, on the good side, she's responsible and trustworthy, she read the Grimoire so knows more about any of the miraculous than anyone on the team, she's an ADULT and granted they seriously need one, she already has experience with the peacock and Duusuu likes her, has combat skills and they're more than impressive (slay queen) and she's smart af. Plus SHE'S RIGHT THERE!!!

Miraculous and the parents dilemma: How is it MLB only seems to present bad parents and barely any healthy families? Like, most of the teen characters have bad parents, on top most are single too so they can't even have at least one good parent they can find comfort in

Adrien: Gabriel isn't exactly "father of the year" and let's not act like Emilie was that holy mother everyone makes her out to be. She never let him exit the mansion either (as an example). Anyway she died so. The grandparents? F*ck you Emil, Millie, don't act like you're better, Johnny and Gabrielle - so far chill but did they really not care how their only son just died recently? Thank you Nathalie for showing how a parent should be

Sublime: Severin is actually chill and supportive (good parent points to him) while Caroline pushes her daughter way too hard. Plus they are divorced and cursed their daughter with this whatever name (how did they get it approved lol?)

Sabrina: Roger is kinda overprotective and he basically lets her daughter get bullied by the one person who she thinks is her friend. Also single parent

Chloe/Zoé: Audrey is basically a narcissist, can't even remember her daughters names, Andre doesn't really give a sh*t about Chloe, his parenting style is "gifts and money are enough", Zoé is basically an affair child. We don't even know her father's name, only that it's a certain Mr. Lee (well, that helps lol)

Luka/Juleka: Anarka and Jagged - not a good mix. Jagged is basically an absent father and too much into the "rock n roll lifestyle", and Anarka doesn't seem to care too much about what's happening in her children's lives

Marinette: Sabine and Tom are completely oblivious to the stalking activities of their daughter or like almost any activity for that matter. Don't even get me started on Tom's parents (Roland, you're in the "f*ck you" club too)

Max: We didn't see too much of his relationship with his mother but she seems chill (only cause she basically has like no screentime). Appears to be single parent too

Alix: Alim, where do I start - huge favoritism problem. Never acknowledges his son, one could say he hates him, while plays favourites with Alix. Also single as it appears

Felix: Colt was definitely a true sunshine. Amelie basically cheers on her son's terrorist acts and manipulates him into stealing the twin rings back from Gabriel (not like him and Adrien are family or anything plus those contain his amoks you beanhead) so yeah, great parenting right there : D

Alya: You know what? Her parents seem to understand parenting duties

Kagami: Tomoe, prime example of abusive and demanding mother. She's so bad, her daughter almost commited s*cide. Single or killed her husband, I'm taking both options into consideration

Mylene: Her mother left her when she was young. Fred actually is a good parent and cares for his daughter but barely appears anyway

So....are the writers allergic to healthy parenting? What do they gain with giving almost all the teens horrible family lives?

At this point I'm writing this out of the memory I have cause I refuse to rewatch MLB cause honestly I don't need that kind of suffering again, I suffered enough

Cause these two are a match made in heaven - literally friendzoned/"just-an-assistant"ed themselves lol

No fr right! And the stans just go on, trying to find excuses 🙄

Fact is - they can't. He did all those stuff, it's canon and they're literally crimes. If we were talking real, he should be in juvie cause he commited serious crimes lol.

Nathalie literally would be the mum lol. Like technically she would be the most skilled holder, she already showed that as Mayura

Can someone explain to me Marinette's grand idea of letting Felix keep the peacock?

• Stole all the miraculous, handing them over to the villain. If Gabriel was out for world domination he would've played part in helping him reach his goal and thus basically ending the world

• Terrorized whole Paris, making everyone disappear, something not even the main villain of the show did all 5 seasons long. And he did that in 1 day. He was literally singing a happy song and dancing while spreading fear. If that's not something a maniac villain does

• Kidnapped Kagami and thought it was okay. Only likes her cause she's senti - he's basically racist (granted Marinette probably doesn't know this but we do and every other point should be enough for her not to trust him)

• Bullied Adrien since they were kids, which can go as far as putting camembert under his pillow and sending a hate message to his friends just cause he can, thus invading his privacy on his phone. Pretends to be him just cause he can too ofc for selfish reasons

• If all these weren't bad enough, he ASSAULTED Ladybug just to mess with Adrien. Sure he cares for his cousin : D

• Chances are if he betrayed her once, he might betray her again. Will put nothing past him

• Literally lives in London. Should he fly to Paris every time something's happening?

So why not give back the peacock to Nathalie? She's healthy again, on the good side, she's responsible and trustworthy, she read the Grimoire so knows more about any of the miraculous than anyone on the team, she's an ADULT and granted they seriously need one, she already has experience with the peacock and Duusuu likes her, has combat skills and they're more than impressive (slay queen) and she's smart af. Plus SHE'S RIGHT THERE!!!

Is it just me or...cause I already ship Adrien and Sublime more than Adrienette (literally toxic). I know the ep ain't even out yet but somehow (and with the clips I've seen so far) I have the feeling he and Sublime gonna have amazing chemistry and honestly, both have similar backgrounds already (having demanding parents, no friends for long because of parents, both actually being sweethearts though) which can be built on

Just my two cents

(Oh and I really hope she has at least a decent name cause who tf names their kid Sublime? Poor girl was raised to excell since day 1)

The thinking of Thomas Astruc:

"Season 5's gonna be amazing! I can finally get rid of Chloe, destroy the plot and finally kill off Gabriel's whole character. Yes, this is gonna be fun but what to do with Gabenath? Sadly we gave the fans signs, hm let me think, oh I got it. If we make Gabriel say he never trusted her, only used her this entire time and leave Nathalie to die the Gabenath fandom will definitely be shut down once and for all. Yeah, that's what we gonna do. Also let's make Adrien suffer, it's so much fun. Fans will love it. And the finale will be great!"

Nah, the gross ship is actually Adrienette. Gabenath could solve almost anything. Gabriel & Nathalie literally show more chemistry in 4 seconds every 7th episode than whole Adrienette 5 seasons long so far

The thinking of Thomas Astruc:

"Season 5's gonna be amazing! I can finally get rid of Chloe, destroy the plot and finally kill off Gabriel's whole character. Yes, this is gonna be fun but what to do with Gabenath? Sadly we gave the fans signs, hm let me think, oh I got it. If we make Gabriel say he never trusted her, only used her this entire time and leave Nathalie to die the Gabenath fandom will definitely be shut down once and for all. Yeah, that's what we gonna do. Also let's make Adrien suffer, it's so much fun. Fans will love it. And the finale will be great!"