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I just want Dacre, Eduardo, and Grace to know they’re loved and appreciated. Do they know?? It keeps me up at night not knowing if they know that

Billy adopting Eleven as a second little sister.

Billy chauffeuring Eleven and Max to school every day acting like it’s the biggest burden and his greatest annoyance in life yet always interjecting whenever he hears them talking about boy troubles or bully troubles to offer (sometimes questionable) advice because he loves them and he’ll be damned if anyone messes with his girls. It happens so often that whenever they’re having an issue, like dealing with a shitty teacher or figuring out the perfect way to get back at Dustin or Lucas or Mike during some prank war, they purposefully talk louder so that Billy will insert himself and offer his opinion.

Billy never shying away when Eleven asks him questions, even if she’s asking about uncomfortable topics like relationships and sex, because it’s honestly next to impossible to embarrass him and he’d rather she hear it straight than get confused by people’s gross innuendos. She feels safe asking him just about anything because she knows he won’t dance around the answers.

Billy waiving his rights to the radio and letting Max and Eleven pick the music whenever one of them is upset, keeping a stash of their favorite cassettes in the glove box just in case. He doesn’t dig their music, but he will dashboard drum and sing along to Madonna just to make them laugh. He also knows their order at all the local fast food joints, can swing through a drive-thru or pop into the ice cream shop and order for all three of them without asking what the girls want, and has been known to detour to their favorite spots when he thinks that one of them needs a pick-me-up.

Billy letting Eleven play with his hair products when he catches her watching him get ready for a date, taking the time to tell her what everything is for and showing her how to use it all. He even gets her some bottles of her own when she finds something that she likes.

Billy teaching Eleven and Max how to drive in an empty parking lot, surprisingly calm as he guides them through the motion. Max is a natural, though she’s definitely something of a speed demon. Eleven is much more cautious and is a little heavy on the brake, but Billy is shockingly patient (even if every rough stop has him wincing for his poor Camaro). Hopper is honestly too much of a nervous wreck to teach El himself, try as he might, so she’s pretty lucky to have Billy there to help her.

Billy being Max and Eleven’s emergency contact. They drank too much at a party? Call Billy. Some guy is making them feel unsafe? Call Billy. Their car broke down? Find a payphone and call Billy. He will drop everything to help them, no matter where he is or what he’s doing. He has held their hair back and made them greasy hangover food. He keeps all their secrets, covers for them if he has to, always makes sure that they are safe because, again, those are his girls.

Billy lowering his guard around Eleven and Max, trusting them more than he trusts anyone else because, time and time again, they’ve proven that they are one hundred percent in his corner. Sure, they bicker with him, pester him, push his buttons. But it’s because they love him, and they feel safe with him, and he feels safe with them, too.

Billy and his two kid sisters, Eleven and Max.

//Tw For Abuse, Suicide and other extensive childhood traumas, also long post of pouring my heart out cause I take fictional characters to my poor traumatized heart

Can we really talk about the S4 Vol2 Speech, though?

I can understand Max’s mixed feelings about her brother. I have some of my own about my sister, who behaved a lot like him and hurt me in some ways, even if she didn’t always mean to.

First, I want to talk about the fact that Max HAD TO KNOW that Billy was abused, to some degree.

Not because she was living in the same house as him for years, but because she continues the cycle. After she sedates Billy in the fight at the Byers’, she threatens him—

“Say you understand! Say it!”

A few scenes before this, his father says nearly the exact same thing— “Do you understand? Say it.” (Maybe not exactly but using most of those words.)

So Max would’ve had to have heard it used before, because it would mean she knew that’s how you get Billy to “agree” with something. And Max— Max is a good person. She’s good-natured, funny, and clever.

So you really expect me to think that Max, knowing her brother was abused and didn’t have a mother for some reason, after he sacrificed himself for all of her friends and very nearly the world crying and apologizing over and over in front of her, DIDN’T THINK HE DESERVED TO BE SAVED? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

I can understand the idea that he was the greatest “normal-world” terror in her life. My sister didn’t affect me directly, but her problems were a full time job and distracted my parents from me while I was still very young. On top of that, her and my other sister liked to gang up on and bully me. So trust me, I get it.

Let’s take a look at what Billy did.

He grabbed Max, threatened to hit her friends with his car, yelled at her a few times, made a vague comment against Lucas after seeing Max fight with him (which there’s a lot to say about this but I’ll keep it at the fact that Dacre has said this wasn’t racist and that the Dxffers refuse to deal with any issues whatsoever), pushed Lucas up against a wall, and fought with Steve. I’m not including the Vecna/Mind Flayer bs in this because he did it against his will, not to mention the reason he did half this shit.

Yes, I can understand how that could be scary, especially for a thirteen year old. Using my sister as an example yet again, she died at 18, right when she was “starting to get better.” Billy was doing the same, as he and Max seemed to have a truce in between S2/S3. She even said in her book that she wasn’t scared of him, but that’s largely considered “non-canon.” To summarize, she understood he was abused and was even on level terms with him.

With my sister, I was not. I relate to Billy myself, but I largely relate Billy to my sisters, mainly my oldest sister (I really mean this. She acted out and got the attention of older people and went in and out of mental hospitals and was suicidal and got in a fist fight with my mother once, etc etc etc) Like I said before, my sisters bullied me (my parents and grandparents have admitted to me that they even knew they were outright nasty) and my sisters’ problems were largely the cause of one of my biggest issues. My sisters both acted out, distracted my parents from me, my whole family trauma dumped on very young me, etc etc etc. Really, that time of my life was a huge mess. And then my sister died, and even more trauma dumped on me from that (emotional abuse and neglect, divorce trauma, the fact that my sister was fucking dead and never coming back never never never how can someone just disappear, Etc). So we rarely got along and the rest of the time we were mostly neutral.

I’m not going to lie. I don’t really do it anymore, but when I was younger I’d curl up and cry about how I was all alone because my parents were to busy with them. I blamed them. I still do, but not in a how-could-you-do-that-to-me way and more of a these-events-caused-you-pain-and-got-you-attention-and-I-suffered-in-silence-for-multiple-reasons-that-aren’t-your-fault way.

You know what I don’t do? Say she didn’t deserve to be saved. Cause she did. She really fucking did. She could be mean and horrible and cold and she wasn’t even close to me but she was only eighteen, only for a couple of months (like Billy), and she was still a baby, she wasn’t even old enough to drink. She was small, she was always small, she’s just a kid. She was getting better and learning how to cope and being nicer to me and she was finding a purpose and getting a handle on herself and then she was just—

Gone. I still don’t understand how someone can just stop existing. Me and my sister still talk about how we expect her to just walk through the door, smack us on the back of the head, and laugh at us for believing it— that anything could ever kill her, of all people. That it was some big joke and we were dumbasses for believing it. It’s been years now, but I still break down at night crying over her. My sister and I have this bone-deep understanding of each other now that I can’t explain— it’s so genuine and whole that it kinda scares me. We call each other after nightmares and share dreams with her in them. My sister blames all of the “paranormal” activity in her house on her and tells me about it. Every time I see a bug (her nickname) or a rainbow I send it to her. When I was younger, I used to wish something would happen, either to her or to me, just so something would change. Do you know what I think every day? How she deserved better. How it should’ve been me or someone else. How she deserved to be saved.

Because “inconvenient” abuse victims deserve to be saved. People who’ve been broken and beaten and discarded and ignored and assaulted their whole lives aren’t irremediable and they deserved to be saved. My sisters deserved to be saved and I deserved to be saved and people like us, people like Billy, deserved to be saved too.

In short, fuck the Duffle Bag Bitches. I’m keeping this eccentric rat fucker close to my fucking heart and I’ll redeem and defend him eight thousand times if it means someone like me, like us, like Billy gets even a glimmer of hope to keep going.

Have I mentioned lately how much I love the Billy community? One of us says something to defend our boy and the rest of y’all just appear like the Avengers or something. You guys are awesome

Stranger Things

I’m just starting season 3 of Stranger Things and, ugh, I have feelings and I must write about them.

TL;DR: The Duffers are not prepared for the challenge the Stranger Things season format presents and the characters suffer for it.

So here, my complaint dump under the cut.

Word count under the cut: 3,562 words

That was your last warning.

Keep reading

Surfer brochachos

just would like to bring up again that billy hargrove was 100% correct when he said “my 13-year-old sister goes missing all day, and then i find her with you—at a stranger’s house—and you lie to me about it.”

The true tragedy of Billy Hargrove is that he was a too complex character for the world he was set in.

His very existence strikes at the core of the show and its character by inviting the viewer to dive deeper into his motives and the nuances of his character. Which then leads to questioning other characters.

Which is a big problem for some viewers. Once you start doing it, you realise all of your faves are problematic. El is a murderer fueled by rage. Hopper is a murderer. Alexei is a murderer in a way. Jonathan is a creep. Eddie is a drug dealer - and we're not talking just weed, we're talking serious drugs. And so on...

And once you have to step back and realise that all of these characters are flawed human beings, panic might start to set in because your cinnamon rolls aren't that sweet after all.

So you're left with three choices:

To stop thinking about it and enjoy the show casually.

To accept they all have flaws. The world itself is not black and white.

To live in denial and become an anti. Because if you can shut up those who are affecting your core system of beliefs or label them as evil, then you can pretend all is well. (Except it's not and all your favs are problematic. Their complexity is what makes them such compelling characters in the first place. I mean if you're looking for something simple, I'd recommend going back to kids cartoons. Just not Peppa Pig, from what I saw of it, she's a little piece of shit too.)

I made a uquiz for Billy bitches only!

Which Billy are you???

This is my first uquiz so don't expect anything good

It's fucked up we don't know Argyle's last name

no offense but the relationship that y'all seem to think steve and eddie have is actually the relationship that jonathan and argyle have.

Seeing people hate on Argyle as I gather every scrap of positive Argyle fan content into my arms and cry over them

It's honestly so funny tho bc like other than El, Argyle was undoubtedly THE most useful member of the Cali Team in season 4.

Who saved the group from being shot at and helped them successfully escape in his pizza van?

Argyle

Who pointed out that the secret message pen was "broken"?

Argyle

Who found the track marks in the desert that they were otherwise lost in?

Argyle

Who not only thought up the pizza freezer bath solution but was able to actually get it for them?

Argyle

I JUST FIND IT SO FUNNY BC THERES SO MANY PEOPLE OUT HERE LIKE !!! EW STEROTYPICAL STUPID STONER BAD WHY IS HE EVEN HERE !!!!! AND ARGYLE IS OVER HERE SINGLEHANDEDLY CARRYING THE CALI TEAM TO NOT ONLY SURVIVAL BUT ALSO VICTORY

Also when he talks spanish it makes my stupid little latina brain happy

if i had a nickel for every time a creator told me that their teenage character who

grew up in a bad environment with a complicated relationship with his father,

was a bully, made mistakes,

was chosen by a great evil that wanted him to do bad things,

was afraid, wanted out but thought he didn't have anyone to turn to,

with his actions saved the heroes from certain death and showed he could have changed if given the chance,

was weak/not brave and someone who didn't deserve a full redemption, i'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

Stranger Things stans went on a mission to make everyone hate Grace Van Dien and instead earned themselves the title of most toxic and annoying fanbase on any social media platform and helped Grace earn even more defenders while everyone (even people outside the fandom) started to call them out on their shit, as they should.

Your shit backfired.

im not even surprised it's the billy stans that are supporting grace and the eddissy shippers because if anyone knows what it's like to get hate, it's us.

argyle being an older brother to billy when

Stranger Things spoilers ahead but I need to talk about Jonathan Byers.

Jonathan, who took it upon himself to organize his baby brother’s funeral because his mother wasn’t doing it.

Jonathan, who dropped everything to *save* Will when he was presented with evidence that he wasn’t dead.

Jonathan, who could not physically bear to watch Will in pain even if it was necessary to free him from the mindflayer, and had to turn away so he didn’t have to see him suffer.

Jonathan, who never treated Will like he was annoying like Mike and Nancy or Lucas and Erica.

Jonathan, who truly *saw* how Will was acting around Mike and knew what it meant.

Jonathan, who admitted he had been distant and chose to be the one to reach across the distance and tell Will he would always love him no matter what.

Jonathan, who gave Will acceptance and reassurance without asking anything of him.

Jonathan, who realized in 1986 that his baby brother was queer and made sure he knew he was explicitly supported without outing him before he was ready.

Just. Jonathan Byers y’all.

All I’m saying is that Prince Zuko, the proud son of a fascist world-dominating warlord, did not become one of the most beloved characters in all of Western media just for you to turn around and literally wish death on a confused, angry teenager poisoned by his environment.

For shame.

There have been countless mini-essays about how Billy anti’s hate him because he’s an “inconvenient abuse victim,” and how because he doesn’t react perfectly to his abuser, that that somehow means he deserves to be hated/left behind/left to die.

And it seems that because of this newest interview with Caleb that even some Billy stans here and on twitter are now buying into that kind of thinking too. I can’t even begin to tell you how disappointed I am in those people.

You know all that racist/violent/abusive behavior is from his father, you know that if he’d lived past s3 he would have turned his life around. He’s a 17-18 year old kid in the 80′s, he’s not doomed to forever be a monster.

It’s literally been like: “Oh no! This imperfect character that I like for being imperfect has been acting imperfectly this whole time!” suprise pickachu face blah blah whatever

Sometimes I wish that the Duffers hadn’t managed to cast an amazing group of actors for ST so that it would be easier to see how abysmal at worst and mediocre at best the show really is.

Literally all of the most beloved moments, lines, and changes to characters/storylines are due to the actors’ improvisations and suggestions.

Is this someone questioning whether or not their brother should be saved or a teenage girl forced to watch her brother die because there is no way in stopping what's killing him?

I feel so gross whenever fanon plays off Snape's parental issues as an excuse that he actively uses, in-universe, to make Lily feel sorry for him and overlook his bad behavior.

Not only is it out-of character for him, the way it's often portrayed gives off the impression that Snape's account of the severity of the situation is unreliable — when the only context his abusive home life is ever brought up is when he's being emotionally manipulative for personal gain, isn't it then likely that he would be exaggerating the situation?

A really prominent trait of canon Snape is that he doesn't like being pitied. He actually hates being seen as a victim. He would much rather be seen as a terrible person than as a hurt, vulnerable one. It's the reason he ends up calling Lily mudblood in the first place. It's why he'd sooner join the Death Eaters than reach out for help.

IDK — Just the fact that some antis apparently acknowledge Snape's canonically abusive childhood, but then spin it into something he consistently takes advantage of to manipulate others for sympathy and forgiveness to the point it comes off as deceptive, when that's actually pretty much the opposite of how he acts in canon... it makes my skin crawl.

Or maybe it’s because he represents a certain portion of abuse survivors that don’t become meek and docile but instead angry and aggressive due to not having an active support system to help unlearn unhealthy coping mechanisms like the other characters you mentioned, ever thought of that?

You guys have characters such as Eleven, Max, Will, Jonathan as representation for abuse but you guys pick the racist abuser who likes to attack and threaten children. If he wasn’t an attractive white man y’all would not be on his side.

And a 🖕to the idiots spouting bullshit about all Billy fans hating Argyle when I’m standing right here.

Only good thing to come out of Vol 2 was my beautiful man Argyle making it out of this shitshow alive and unharmed.

Hey duffle bags, way to shat all over Dacre’s hard work on trying to humanize Billy whilst he couldn’t be on set to defend him.

TikTokers saying "oh you love billy but hate argyle" uh what 😃

I've literally never met a billy fan who said anything bad about Argyle. I mean... I love both characters. This narrative is getting old fast.

I don't know where they got these ideas from, honestly.

So if you like... a fictional character... who happens to be a teenage ab*se victim... then you're automatically racist and/or homophobic?

If you want to really get into this, I think you mean IT character Henry Bowers, and he and Billy are not the same. The Duffers wanted them to be, but fortunately Dacre made sure that didn't happen.

You're forgetting that ST is literally a bunch of Stephen King references without substance or originality. The Duffers wanted Billy to be Henry Bowers. If you think Billy was bad, I suggest you read IT (the movies are available too in case y'all don't know how to fucking read).

no but I think that if Billy Hargrove ever got the chance to meet Wayne Munson he’d short circuit? like, here is a man that, for all intents and purposes, comes from his walk of life, who is a little bit gruff and sort of rough around the edges, who is raising a boy not too unlike Billy and who shows that boy genuine love and affection the likes of which Billy has never truly known. Wayne would never think of raising his voice to Eddie, let alone his fist. not just that, but he actively defends his nephew against a town that has written him off as a freak. Billy has never had an adult come to bat for him the way that Wayne does for Eddie and I truly don’t think that Billy would know how to wrap his head around that. 

and and and if he ever hung around Wayne??? picture it: Billy going to Eddie’s for the first time, maybe for some stupid school project they got paired up for, maybe just to listen to some music, and Wayne comes home from work. Billy’s instincts kick in, because father figures coming home sets off alarm bells, but Wayne is nothing like Neil. he comes in happy to see Eddie, asks about Eddie’s day, cracks jokes with him. and when Wayne sees Billy side-eyeing him, looking confused, he puts a hand on Billy’s shoulder and he asks, “You okay, son?” and there’s no sarcasm in it, no animosity, it’s a genuine question and Billy doesn’t know what to do so he makes up some excuse to leave.

of course, I love to think of all this ending with Wayne becoming the father that Billy deserved but never got to have, a man who can be a role model to him, that can smooth out his edges and teach him to quell his anger. that Billy and Eddie get close, that Billy hangs around the Munsons, is wrapped up in this warm little family. that sometimes Billy gets to Eddie’s place a little early, when he knows that Eddie isn’t home, just to talk to Wayne, to get the fatherly advice that Neil would never give. that one day, when Wayne is out drinking, Neil Hargrove stumbles into the bar and Wayne notices the bruised knuckles, thinks back on the black eye Billy had tried to hide from him and puts two and two together. that when Wayne comes home a little worse for wear and finds the boys watching MTV on the couch, when they ask him what happened, he looks Billy dead in the eye and says, “Let’s just say you’re not fighting your battles alone anymore.”