Not To Be A Haylor Shipper But I Always Found It Pretty Sweet That Taylor Has Nearly Two Albums Written

Not to be a haylor shipper but I always found it pretty sweet that Taylor has nearly two albums written about her painting her in the most beautiful light possible by someone who loved her deeply. The same girl who was shamed for writing about love and heartbreak to the point where she herself doubted her self worth and felt like she was 'poisoned ivy' that destroyed everything she touches has lyrics like "moonlight dances over your GOOD side" and "summertime and butterflies all belong to your creation" and "I'm missing half of me when were apart" that was inspired by her. Even if the world doesnt know that she knows. She knows she not only left her mark as an artist but as a muse. This is why I don't want gp or casual people to find out that hs1 is about her. There is something romantic about Taylor being a nameless faceless person in his art. Someone who knew her as Taylor and not Taylor Swift.

[P.s I don't think they are soul mates or meant to be. But the mark their relationship left within themselves and music as a whole is fascinating ]

i have nothing to add to this because you phrased it so beautifully. <333 (and i wish sometimes we had more space to talk about this without the caveat regarding ~shipping~, which is simply not the point!) it's a little insight that we get to hear, both musically and from that human perspective. those threads of gossamer inspiration and tenderness and shared artistry.

(your ps!!! 100%, and i think you can be meant to meet rather than meant to be. the moment in time still matters, and the ripples across the music and the stories told and the unspoken dialogue is SUCH a cool creative arc to follow.)

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1 year ago

“haylor was just a publicity stunt”

1989 tv: 🧍🏼‍♀️

2 years ago

“So if you couldn’t tell by the aggressive colorblocking of everything, we are currently in the Red era! You know, it’s so crazy to sort of have my feelings about my work evolve as time passes, you know? It’s just like anything else. It’s just like anything in life, where in the moment it’s one thing, five minutes later it’s another thing, a year later it’s a totally different thing, 10 years later it’s a different thing, 15 years later—when you get into this place, you make something you’re so proud of, the Red album, I have always been so incredibly proud of. When I wrote it, I was 21 and 22 reflecting back on, you know, the last few years of my life. And at the time I put out Red, I was really proud of it, but it was a really hard album for me. It was really difficult for me to play live, to talk about it, to explain it, to do interviews about what it was about, because I do think that being 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, these are all really precarious years of life. It’s so difficult. If you’re in that age group right now, my heart is with you. That’s hard. There’s a lot going on. You’re being fed so many different messages, right? You feel like a kid some moments; you feel like you’re supposed to be a full, full adult in other moments. And you don’t quite know how to balance the weight of those two things. And I guess what I’m trying to say is that when I was going through all these things I wrote about on Red, it was very difficult for me to process that art, and to appreciate it fully until it went out into the world, and it went into your hands, and you said, essentially, ‘Oh no, I feel this way too. You’re not the only one feeling this way. It’s totally fine to be feeling this way.’ I think for me, the most beautiful piece of you doing that was a song I could barely get through singing, honestly, when I was touring originally with the Red album, but you really changed that, haven’t you? I’d really like to play one more song, if you have 10 minutes to spare.”

— Taylor before playing All Too Well (10 Minute Version) in Atlanta, GA on April 28th

1 year ago

"everyone wanted him, that was my crime"/"you were so magnetic it was almost obnoxious, flushed with the currency of cool"

the whole song of is it over now/"you had people who called you from unmarked numbers"

"I can't be your friend" "I can't pretend it's platonic"/"I didn't come here to make friends"

"I broke my own heart cause you were too polite to do it"/"I walked out and said I'm setting you free" "when she said it was too much, do you wish you could still touch her"

"this love came back to me" "i watch us go round and round each time" "is it over now"/"when you told me we'd get back together"

like idk how to explain it guys but suburban legends is literally so consistent and easy to understand

1 year ago

One of my fave bits in Question…? Was how she called them a meteor strike. It was a before and after moment in their lives.

It’s a deep thing when a person does that to you, because life moves on, you move on and yet there are these moments when one little thing takes you back and you reminisce and you wonder..

I always find it interesting that after 1989 when songs were no longer about Harry there were songs that made me think of him so strongly even if they were about someone else… because the way she describe the spark or the heartbreak was one that had a taste of Harry and their story. I always thought that was just me being a Harrie but now… i guess some feelings hit you so strongly that they change you…and color how you see the world after.

And she said it all in Question a year ago. It ended up being one of her more telling songs… 10 years in the making

Meteor strike indeed

1 year ago

Do you know where Taylor said she was giving up on relationships for a while? I feel like I remember that but can't find it

it was in her rolling stone cover story! (a lot of the press she did at that time is tinged with things that are saddening to revisit, but also clear on what her perspective was. the vogue 73 questions is another one):

"In fact, she suggests, she hasn’t dated at all since breaking up with One Direction singer Harry Styles more than a year and a half ago. “Like, have not gone on a date,” she says. “People are going to feel sorry for me when you write that. But it’s true.” Swift says dating is hard for her. For one thing, there’s the logistics. “Seventy percent of the time, when a guy asks me out, it’ll just be a random e-mail,” she says. Some movie star will get her address from his publicist and e-mail her cold. Usually she politely rebuffs them – but even if someone did penetrate that line of defense, building a relationship is hard. “I feel like watching my dating life has become a bit of a national pastime,” Swift says. “And I’m just not comfortable providing that kind of entertainment anymore. I don’t like seeing slide shows of guys I’ve apparently dated. I don’t like giving comedians the opportunity to make jokes about me at awards shows. I don’t like it when headlines read ‘Careful, Bro, She’ll Write a Song About You,’ because it trivializes my work. And most of all, I don’t like how all these factors add up to build the pressure so high in a new relationship that it gets snuffed out before it even has a chance to start. And so,” she says, “I just don’t date.” (That goes for hooking up as well. “I just think it’s pointless if you’re not in love,” Swift says. “And I don’t have the energy to be in love right now. So, no.”) Truth be told, Swift sounds a tiny bit jaded – which, for a “self-professed hopeless romantic,” maybe isn’t the worst thing to be. “It’s not like I’ve sworn off love,” she says. “My life is just not conducive to bringing other people into it right now. I’m very childlike and romantic about lots of things, but I’m realistic about this.” [....] it’s not bad that I’m not hopelessly in love with someone. It’s not a tragedy, and it’s not me giving up and being a spinster. Although I did get another cat.” She laughs. “I asked around: I was like, ‘Does two cats count as cats?’ But then I thought, what imaginary guy’s perspective am I thinking about this from? Someone is going to think I’m undateable for a lot of reasons before they think I’m undateable because I have two cats.”"

eta: the above still applies, but i was actually remembering her glamour magazine interview with this -

"Yeah, I do feel jaded about relationships, to be honest. I think the media has sent me a really unfair message over the past couple of years, which is that I’m not allowed to date for excitement, or fun, or new experiences or learning lessons. I’m only allowed to date if it’s for a lasting, multiple-year relationship. Otherwise I’m a, quote, ‘serial dater’. Or, quote, ‘boy crazy’. The narrative has been so wrong, every time it was the same. It’s 'Taylor spotted talking to this guy, she’s chasing him.’ They create a beginning to the story that didn’t happen most of the time, so then they have to create an ending. So they always go to the same fabricated ending that every other tabloid has used in my story, which is, 'She got too clingy’, or 'Taylor has too many emotions, she scared him away’. Which has honestly never been the reason for any of my break-ups. You know what has been the reason? The media. You take something very fragile, like trying to get to know someone, and it feels like walking out into the middle of a gladiator arena with someone you’ve just met. And all of a sudden the public and the media are allowed to say thumbs up or thumbs down. So I just don’t try it anymore."

1 year ago

"say don't go" and "all you had to do was stay" and "how you get the girl" and the theme of taylor just telling him how easy it is to fix things on 1989 and they consistently fuck it up when she's writing the most obvious blueprint for him and she's so clearly communicating what she needs I LOSE MY MIND

1 year ago

The way she loved him so much to the point where she would have been okay with being called a slut if that meant she could have him! And the way she is possessive over his couch and snarky that he is dating her clowns while wondering why he didn't say I love you

I KNOWWWWW she was so fucking in love with him and felt insane. i am thinking about her ayhtdws speech on tour. the one where she said that people deserve more than someone who can't make up their mind and say they love you. he hurt her so bad and the worst part is in all his songs after that, he didn't ever seem to notice. he speaks so frequently of his hurt. she sings of his hurt a couple times (particularly in ootw and question). but when does he ever mention hers?

it's a tragic thing in their story where she was always more aware than he was and always more emotionally intelligent.

2 years ago
Taylor Performing “You Belong With Me” At The Eras Tour, Glendale
Taylor Performing “You Belong With Me” At The Eras Tour, Glendale
Taylor Performing “You Belong With Me” At The Eras Tour, Glendale
Taylor Performing “You Belong With Me” At The Eras Tour, Glendale

Taylor performing “You Belong With Me” at the Eras Tour, Glendale

2 years ago

regarding h/t parallels. Last day when t talked about us accepting red and how that was her being experimental and curious it instantly reminded me of fine line. How he was experimenting a lot of sound which made it all over the place same as red. They both showed their messy self in that albums. It became an instant fan favourite but received moderately by critics. How they both got their first no1 with that albums. But those no 1 songs never defined those albums for fans. A song ignored by critics(ATW and FL) became fan favourites. How those albums led to the 'cohesiveness' of 1989 and HSH. The height those albums got them. But red/fl still being fan favourites and them sharing that love for those albums with us. How after giving time these albums flourished (red moreso because of time and rerecordings). I would never get tired of talking about them(platonic artistic)

happy, free, confused, and lonely at the same time are really the themes of red/fine line. taylor saying last night that she really wanted to experiment on that record and, "Over time I've learned that trusting you to be open-minded has always been the best thing I could ever do, is trusting that you would accept me trying to do new things," and the other night when she talked about how us embracing red was also us embracing the scattered, fragile, changing person that she was, i think there are a lot of elements of fine line that speak to that as well. (remembering harry saying: "the album is yours. i am yours" and why he delivered it to the audience that way.) something i think is quite striking is this idea of "cohesiveness" - the sonic cohesiveness, the slick precision of 1989 and harry's house, got them a lot of critical acclaim and then awards attention, but the beautiful messiness and the narrative journeys of red and fine line, the exposed hearts of them, made them meaningful to fans. it's interesting how that ends up being SUCH a different perspective - critics are looking for elements that are so different than what we're holding onto at times. their respective awareness of how valued and beloved those records are to the fans, and the connection those albums have between us and them, i really believe will always be there.

1 year ago

she really hid her heartbreak in the 1989 vault

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no other sadness in the world would do.she/her

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