THEYRE JUST TREES TAYLOR
Columbus, 8/18
the thing about haylor is i dont want them together i dont think they were the pinnacle of a perfect relationship i just find their dynamic and the way they write about each other SO ENDLESSLY INTERESTING. like i am a fan of the art of haylorism not shipping these two humans together as actual end game. does this make sense?
Some Haylor Tracks at 1989 (x/x)
My short ‘…Ready For It?’ lyric analysis and how it’s definitely about Harry:
The line about the girls he had loved and left fits her description of him in the 1989 vault songs, especially ‘Is It Over Now?’ with the models and Taylor clones he has been sleeping with.
The haunted and ghost line?!?! That is a 1989 staple line, on reddit I saw someone making a whole ass data sheet about the amount of times she says ghosts-related terms in all of the albums and 1989 had the highest ratio/percentage compared to the rest. Also, Harry’s ‘Two Ghosts’?!?!?
Ghosts = haylor.
“Some boys trying to hard, he don’t try at all” = similar to lyrics in ‘Slut’, “In a world of boys, he’s a gentleman”.
“Younger than all my exes but is such a man” = Harry is her youngest ex (let’s pretend she forgot about Conor Kennedy and it wasn’t a true ex anyway). Joe is older than Harry. Checkmate.
Wildest dreams tea, also I had this theory that they secretly went to an island in 2016, when they still had their situationship going on.
Idk about that robber and heist line but it’s definitely not about Joe lol. Sounds like she’s painting herself as a criminal and him gladly joining along. Like… eloping. Or running away from a crime.
Burton and Taylor is about Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor, known for their on-off intense relationship that spanned years. Is she talking about Joe, who she only knew at best for 6 months? (album was released Nov 2017 but she only got with Joe in Sept 2016 and she probably wrote the song earlier). OFC NOT.
The themes in this song does not match all the Joe-confirmed songs about him later too. We can only surmise, she’s singing about another dude.
‘Every love I’ve known in comparison is a failure, I forget their names now’ - Taylor’s being annoying and hyperbolic when she wrote this (don’t take her seriously) but yeah that’s why you are still writing about Harry in 2022 with Question..? and Maroon. Also I’m pretty sure she forgot about Conor, Calvin, Tom Hiddleston, and most of the dudes she dated before Harry.
Games = their on-off situationship. I said what I said.
There it is, my 5 minute song lyric analysis. Hope y’all are enlightened.
Me and my friends were talking yesterday about Taylor and Joe’s break up and how we all think Joe’s ‘normal grounded life’ that Taylor loved and needed so much at the time, is something she actually grew out of and didn’t need anymore because Joe didn’t grow with her when she got better enough to not really want or need to hide. He was still stuck in the same spot and didn’t really want to change or compromise and only really liked Taylor’s fame and money when it benefited him in the end. I do think they became very mismatched by the end too and didn’t want the same things from their relationship anymore and Taylor literally tried so hard to make it work and accommodate all his needs but it was never really requited. Yes he was there for her when she needed him in the first couple of years but even that now seems like he enjoyed being the saviour.
Yes, what you guys landed on hits all the conversation points we've been having. It's exactly what happened and then you sprinkle the details in as shown in Taylor's songs the last couple of years and its crystal clear how the dynamic changed.
The way she loved him so much to the point where she would have been okay with being called a slut if that meant she could have him! And the way she is possessive over his couch and snarky that he is dating her clowns while wondering why he didn't say I love you
I KNOWWWWW she was so fucking in love with him and felt insane. i am thinking about her ayhtdws speech on tour. the one where she said that people deserve more than someone who can't make up their mind and say they love you. he hurt her so bad and the worst part is in all his songs after that, he didn't ever seem to notice. he speaks so frequently of his hurt. she sings of his hurt a couple times (particularly in ootw and question). but when does he ever mention hers?
it's a tragic thing in their story where she was always more aware than he was and always more emotionally intelligent.
"the truth is i can't pretend it's platonic"/"i cannot be your friend"
"it's weird cause the guy that is about and i are friends and i don't talk about my relationships hut i do my friendships"/spending the day at caleb's party together/harry yelling across the restaurant that they're friends
taylor in 1989 promo: I'M SINGLE PRINGLE
every haylor stan in 2015 : NO YOU WEREN'T
I feel like fine line vault will have the most experimental songs. He was gravitating towards pop with adore you and WS while staying near his comfort zone that was rock. Sunflower was probably a turning point in deciding hsh sound.
sonical things aside I want to listen to his bitter songs about camille's nepo boyfriend and his art gallery lmao
there's a lot of fusion across sounds and genres that happens on fine line and i am in love with it forever. the initial high and glitter and infatuation and freedom and revelation of the first four tracks, the groovy guitar and the gospel choir, swooping down into the sweetbitter sting of cherry and its delicate acoustics and its tinged pink atmosphere (pathetic was his word, regretful is mine), and then the full scale piano soaring vocals drowning heartbreak ballad of falling (that plea: what am i now? i cannot), and then the cheeky/resentful self-deprecating ukulele match strike of to be so lonely, and then the more hs1 old-fashioned rock epic in she, and then sunflower comes in and goes, "hi, so we've been moping for a while, it's time to get psychedelic with it."
sunflower is the light switching back on (lights up and you know who you are, do you know who you are?), some recovery, some happy memories, still the yearning, but it's giving way to something else. the genius of "does he take you walkin' 'round his parents' gallery?" transforming into "i've got your face hung up high in the gallery." HELLO? nepo boyfriend can take you to SEE the art, but to harry...you ARE the art. he's still self-criticizing and reflecting, but in a less harsh way (not the wandering hands or arrogant son of a bitch, just trying hard not to act a fool). kiss in the kitchen like it's a dance floor! keep it sweet in your memory! we're finding our way through! the silly bizarre nonsense mushroom noises because his humor is sparkling back into view. and then! suddenly! bursting onto the scene in screaming bright color, guitars and dulcimer and whistling and sunshine, is canyon moon, and we're going home!!! an old lover's hippie music! you do not understand (actually you probably do), i love the storytelling that happens there SO much. i LOVE the way sunflower was a turning point in the writing and sits as a turning point on the album itself, where it's like, we've grieved, we've paced, we've been lost and questioned everything, we've felt it all, and now it's time to find the sun again. (take me back to the light...i've been thinking back to a time under the canyon moon. golden is answered in sunflower and canyon moon.) i'm going home and looking to treat people with kindness, in spite of everything. go home and take a deep breath and reflect on everything that's happened, and feel that hurt and that mysterious pull, and remember the love that was there, in six minutes and eighteen seconds of catharsis, and it's all just such a fine line. crisp trepidation (the vocal layering and harmonies there. then the horns at the end!), because the fear is crystalline, but we keep going anyway. that's what we always are, constantly walking along it. we'll be a fine line, over and over, in different ways. maybe that's okay. maybe we'll be alright.
perfect album i am so serious.
ALL that said, because it is such a perfect album and told in such a specific way and follows a story, anything extraneous or that didn't directly enrich it, or was TOO cutting or too sorrowful, he took out, which objectively i understand for the sake of the art, but subjectively and selfishly, i want to know what it was. I NEED. i'll take the even more experimental ones, the bitter and angry songs, or sad ones, or earlier adoring ones, please give them all to me immediately. the fact that this will probably never happen??? i can't think about it!
*jenny slate meme* i had to stop thinking about fine line because it made me too crazy! harry would just be like, "loving you's the antidote -> you've got my devotion, but man, i can hate you sometimes." or "i know that you're scared because i'm so open -> spreading you open is the only way of knowing you..." and i was like, "SCREAMS!!!"
I just keep thinking like, how much Joe helped Taylor become herself and grow as a person - not in the way that like, a man deserves all the credit, but it is so clear that he and their relationship helped her get to a place where she could discuss the topics on folklore / evermore / Midnights, where she could make her political post, hell even the amount of seductive choreo skyrocketed from 1989 to rep and then to Eras because she feels so comfortable with herself, and I don’t doubt that he was a part of that journey. Even if all he did was stand by her, he gave her the confidence to do it all and having that rock really deeply helped her. And like, whatever happened, but it’s clear to me that relationship made her into the best version of herself she could be, and that’s what any wonderful relationship is supposed to do and that is both beautiful and so fucking heartbreaking. And no matter what happened I am so grateful to him to have given those gifts to her.
Do we think it’s somewhat rude Harry wasn’t there for the release in LA? Or no? Not rude.. but maybe just solidifies they aren’t in communication. I thought he would at least show up for her as a friend
I cannot stress enough: I think his absence and commitment elsewhere was a STRATEGIC DECISION.
Blondie has 3 exes who are not awful and with whom we have proof she interacts. All of whom have one (or more) songs on particular albums/behaviour in particular eras for which they are know: Joe Jonas, Taylor Lautner, and Harry Styles.
NONE were involved in release announcements. But when they albums came out?!?
In the depth of the pandemic, Sophie and Joe got in on the action supporting Blondie’s Fearless TV release:
And we just saw Taylor Lautner’s triumphant moments in July for SN:
And her interactions with Harry? Stratospheric interest. No one talks about anything else.
This?
And this?
Controlled the news cycle for 2 days only 6 months ago, more than his AOTY won and RedTV finally getting a Grammy. Tree had to put out a press release about their long-standing, peaceful friendship (maybe bc a certain YB threw a tantrum?)
And not supportive or not in contact? Disagree. Here is what he wore in Frankfurt in his concert hours before SN dropped:
The entire lighting scheme, the band accessories - all purple. He wore purple tones the concerts before and after too.
Last night was a TRIUMPH for Blondie. Final night of an unprecedentedly successful US tour celebrating her entire career, featuring stolen music she is reclaiming. Continued dominance on the charts and in international and domestic concert ticket sales.
And now - she gets to reclaim her first iconic album, the one that changed everything for her. The one that contains almost exclusively and still routinely charts…songs we all know are about Harry Styles. Style is *currently* her 4th or 5th highest charting single NINE YEARS after the album came out.
After the year she’s had, do you think she wanted to risk last night being overshadowed by a man?
And Harry Styles has ALWAYS stood back to let her shine, praising her and supporting her in big and small ways. He has NEVER said anything even remotely bad about her publicly, while she has *never publicly said his name aloud*.
The is exactly ZERO chance that Harry does not get pulled into this dialogue in the coming months.
Let’s sit back and watch it play out. Being a Haylor involved a lot of patience; let’s flex that muscle now.