i’m not sad about it anymore like i was 2 days ago when the news broke but god it is ironic how an album that has a love song they wrote together about protecting their little bubble is ultimately what ended up kind of being the final blow to their relationship
i know, but i also think it's interesting in a way that i hadn't considered before that so many of the love songs on midnights are about trying to protect that little bubble. like paris, lavender haze, sweet nothing.....it just is more contextually interesting given that the bubble was where they thrived and out of the bubble, which had once felt easy, started to feel harder.
I feel like fine line vault will have the most experimental songs. He was gravitating towards pop with adore you and WS while staying near his comfort zone that was rock. Sunflower was probably a turning point in deciding hsh sound.
sonical things aside I want to listen to his bitter songs about camille's nepo boyfriend and his art gallery lmao
there's a lot of fusion across sounds and genres that happens on fine line and i am in love with it forever. the initial high and glitter and infatuation and freedom and revelation of the first four tracks, the groovy guitar and the gospel choir, swooping down into the sweetbitter sting of cherry and its delicate acoustics and its tinged pink atmosphere (pathetic was his word, regretful is mine), and then the full scale piano soaring vocals drowning heartbreak ballad of falling (that plea: what am i now? i cannot), and then the cheeky/resentful self-deprecating ukulele match strike of to be so lonely, and then the more hs1 old-fashioned rock epic in she, and then sunflower comes in and goes, "hi, so we've been moping for a while, it's time to get psychedelic with it."
sunflower is the light switching back on (lights up and you know who you are, do you know who you are?), some recovery, some happy memories, still the yearning, but it's giving way to something else. the genius of "does he take you walkin' 'round his parents' gallery?" transforming into "i've got your face hung up high in the gallery." HELLO? nepo boyfriend can take you to SEE the art, but to harry...you ARE the art. he's still self-criticizing and reflecting, but in a less harsh way (not the wandering hands or arrogant son of a bitch, just trying hard not to act a fool). kiss in the kitchen like it's a dance floor! keep it sweet in your memory! we're finding our way through! the silly bizarre nonsense mushroom noises because his humor is sparkling back into view. and then! suddenly! bursting onto the scene in screaming bright color, guitars and dulcimer and whistling and sunshine, is canyon moon, and we're going home!!! an old lover's hippie music! you do not understand (actually you probably do), i love the storytelling that happens there SO much. i LOVE the way sunflower was a turning point in the writing and sits as a turning point on the album itself, where it's like, we've grieved, we've paced, we've been lost and questioned everything, we've felt it all, and now it's time to find the sun again. (take me back to the light...i've been thinking back to a time under the canyon moon. golden is answered in sunflower and canyon moon.) i'm going home and looking to treat people with kindness, in spite of everything. go home and take a deep breath and reflect on everything that's happened, and feel that hurt and that mysterious pull, and remember the love that was there, in six minutes and eighteen seconds of catharsis, and it's all just such a fine line. crisp trepidation (the vocal layering and harmonies there. then the horns at the end!), because the fear is crystalline, but we keep going anyway. that's what we always are, constantly walking along it. we'll be a fine line, over and over, in different ways. maybe that's okay. maybe we'll be alright.
perfect album i am so serious.
ALL that said, because it is such a perfect album and told in such a specific way and follows a story, anything extraneous or that didn't directly enrich it, or was TOO cutting or too sorrowful, he took out, which objectively i understand for the sake of the art, but subjectively and selfishly, i want to know what it was. I NEED. i'll take the even more experimental ones, the bitter and angry songs, or sad ones, or earlier adoring ones, please give them all to me immediately. the fact that this will probably never happen??? i can't think about it!
*jenny slate meme* i had to stop thinking about fine line because it made me too crazy! harry would just be like, "loving you's the antidote -> you've got my devotion, but man, i can hate you sometimes." or "i know that you're scared because i'm so open -> spreading you open is the only way of knowing you..." and i was like, "SCREAMS!!!"
i just have to disagree with anon about ayhtdws and wonderland being the saddest songs out of 1989. ootw at the grammy museum personally crushed me. that’s when you realize the song stripped bare from its heavy production, is actually a very sad song about somehow sensing that this love you held was doomed from the start. trying to protect something you hold so dear and that could break at any moment due to its fragility and then it finally breaking because outside forces ultimately won and you had to give up what you were fighting for because it was too hard. it makes me so sad :(
Sorry about the haylor in your asks but if it is atleast partly inspired by him that means that there must've been more to it than we knew. Like I still can't believe AYHTDWS was the saddest song she could come up with in 1989. I think that she locked her sad songs in vault because she wanted a fun pop album. Especially after people dragging her for red aka heartbreak album in that era. Even wonderland (arguably the saddest one in 1989) is bonus that didn't get much attention. Man I can't wait for 1989 tv
from what we've heard of his side, there was definitely strong emotion, and the fact that she addressed that situation on midnights (and potentially folkmore) at all lends itself to the idea that there could be more beneath the surface there. we know they went back and forth for quite a while. as you mentioned, something i feel is important to recognize about 1989 era is that she was projecting a polished, perfected image on purpose. she had exposed real devastating heartbreak before and been dragged through the mud for it, as far as the media goes, and the response to red back then was quite different than it is now, and we also know about her then making that conscious decision to pivot - into pop, into a "cohesive" sound, into sort of glossing depth on the album in order to seem more...assured and effervescent. she suppressed her romanticism and she attempted to hide how she was struggling. i know i've mentioned that era was really hard for me and i stepped back for a few reasons, but it's more clear now how she was grappling with a lot of difficult things. this is totally subjective, but i've always thought the most emotionally vulnerable song on the record was this love (or at least it's tied with clean), and it's telling it was originally a poem written earlier. she tried to shed that signature heart on her sleeve (even in interviews, 1989 taylor was often at her most cynical), and the sadness and struggles and pressure she locked up tight. it's still good writing, it's fundamentally a perfect pop album, but it's at a bit more of a remove, layered with the slick production, and more weighted with anxiety than sadness. and you're right, some of that was to keep it fun - if you strip AYHTDWS or IWYW or OOTW or I Know Places or Wonderland down to bare acoustics, they'd sound a LOT more sad. i am very curious if the 1989 vault has any of the more vulnerable writing, or if she didn't really lean into that aspect of her pen at the time because of what she was focused on creating. we don't know anything about the songs that could be there, i don't think? it'll be so cool to hear what she held back from that time, and interesting if it illuminates/redefines any of the album the way Red TV did!
harry is apparently in london.. even tho i knew the chances were small why am i still kinda upset he’s really not at the eras tour closing night 😭🫠
can i ask what’s so special about 8/9? 👀
btw, 13 days since yesterday is going to be 8/9,soooo👀
there’s just no possible way that end game is about joe lmao.. not ONE of those lyrics scream joe and it’s actually insane to think so many swifties just brushed it off because they didn’t take haylor seriously as a couple. and they still kinda don’t because they’re making jokes now about how taylor can “finally” sing end game and the lyrics actually fitting because she’s with travis 💀
While we’re at it, ‘Ready For It’ is so blatantly about Harry. At this point I think a lot of Swifties turn a blind eye to the lyrics because deep down they know it’s not about Joe.
she really hid her heartbreak in the 1989 vault
i'm screaming she really was like "i cannot believe that you got to be a slut in public while IIIIII had ot be a slut in private"
the second option FOR SURE. first of all i care about them as people foremost and i would never selfishly wish that man on ANYONE for my own desires (1989 tv collab).. second the chances of harry having something to do with 1989 tv i feel are already small even if my delulu self is still manifesting it lol. if they reconnect there’s still a possibility at a collab! it doesn’t have to be on 1989 tv
Haylor besties: would you rather…
Harry worked on 1989 TV with Taylor and then she fumbled the bag (by hooking up with MH) OR Harry had nothing to do with 1989 TV and is potentially still open to reconnecting with Taylor (when and if single)?
I LOVE GOOD NEWS FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS
New reading https://youtu.be/4hsmu79cQug?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/4hsmu79cQug?si=vE1WKG6KNaIgF4Pq
Thanks for sharing! This reading on TS and HS from last night is quite long and detailed (and interesting!). Here are the highlights that jumped out to me:
Something is coming to an end for Harry.
Something will bring them to a common playing field.
Someone is telling Harry to consider the relationship, and getting back together, maybe even Taylor herself.
There may be someone trying to steal this love and wish fulfillment from Taylor. Someone is being immature and trying to play games to keep them apart. Could be someone they both know.
Taylor doesn’t want to say too much to anyone else, but wants to spend some time together and see if a reconciliation would work. She wants to try again.
She maybe have felt like she couldn’t make him happy in the past, but his unhappiness wasn’t because of her or her fault. There was some disconnect or misunderstanding between them with this.
In the years since, she may have found herself and her worth.
Harry may have been holding back his true feeling for her, but that is no longer the case because he does want to reconcile as well.
Maybe some abandonment issues here. They may have needed time apart to heal.
She was unclear about where she stood with him, because she wasn’t getting what he was trying to say. She thought it was about her when it wasn’t.
Things didn’t go the way Harry thought they would or how he’d planned.
Both of them want to reveal a truth and they both feel guilty about the way things happened.
He may be changing his mind about someone new and looking back at Taylor.
He feels a lot for her. And he’s open to this reunion.
Third-party interference is the obstacle for this reunion.
They both see that they could do this with each other.
They feel at home with one another.
She’s going to confess that she left him before he could leave her, because she was afraid.
He is watching and using his intuition. She’s getting justice (could be something to do with whoever is trying to interfere).
They’ll run into each other. It will spark something new for them.
Reader predicts this will happen within the next 10 weeks or months, maybe much sooner.
They have a lot to talk about and a lot to communicate and express in order for this to work out; this may have been a challenge before but now they will be more genuine with each other.
If they get back together, and don’t let other people get in their way, they’ll do really well together.
They may do a duet or collaboration that would bring a lot of financial success.
They may end up having a family together.
I came across HS/TS synastry chart and found some interesting. Note that this is assuming TS' ascendant is really Scropio for the ones that include ascendant.
Venus conj mars: romantic and sexual attraction between you is almost irresistible. The intensity of your feelings for one another is unlikely to fade over time, and you find much fulfillment in your love for each other. Even if you go your separate ways, it is likely that both of you will always remember each other for the passion you once enjoyed.
Asc square merc: This aspect creates confusion and misunderstandings. They may find it difficult to understand each other and cooperate.
Pluto square venus: Intense, and sometimes uncomfortable, attraction between these two can go either way fast. The expression “a fine line between love and hate” applies here. This connection is almost primal in nature. Sexual attraction is intense. These two will definitely need to deal with issues of possessiveness, jealousy, and volatile emotions. They arouse in one another some of their deepest insecurities, as there can be an intense fear of losing one another.
Mars conj pluto: The Mars conjunct Pluto synastry aspect can indicate burning down, destruction, and regeneration. The relationship is a very important influence in your life (for better or worse). The Plutonian obsession is very well present. It is impossible not to think of the other person, especially for the Mars person to exclude the Pluto person of their mind.
Neptune square moon: There is a tendency to misunderstand or misread each other’s signals, so you will have to spend more time processing hurt feelings or perceived slights
Uranus square moon: This aspect can lead to a relationship that begins abruptly and is filled with exhilarating highs and unsettling lows. The intense attraction you feel towards each other may be fueled by the excitement and novelty your partner brings into your life. However, these moments of exhilaration can quickly turn into feelings of insecurity and uncertainty, as you struggle to find a balance between your need for emotional stability and the wild energy that Uranus represents.
Mars square mercury: Different points of view can turn into full-fledged arguments all too easily with this combination. Words may be sharp and destructive
Jupiter square moon:This aspect often leads to exaggerated emotions and intuitions, which stem from both individuals' own fears and insecurities.
Jupiter trine jupiter:You get on well with each other and encourage each other to improve yourself and your life
Moon trine saturn: Any Moon-Saturn aspect sign can be used for good, but it takes work. If both people are emotionally immature, then even the Moon trine Saturn synastry aspect will feel difficult and painful. If both partners are emotionally mature, then even the square aspect can feel easy.
Pluto square sun:you have a deep and transformative effect on each other. Just like the opposition, it can be a bit of a love-hate relationship.
Pluto conjunct jupiter: This relationship challenges you to grow, transform, improve, and develop. It doesn't accept a standstill! This aspect may bring out the risk-taker or ambitious nature in one or both of you
Venus sextile pluto: tendency to be consumed by one another and by the relationship is here
Wow. I feel this explains their tf dynamic