We DONT Talk About Her Enough. Im So Obsessed

Obsessed with this tbh.. it's been too long it's about time we had another SuperWhoLock lmao

this comment made me take psychic damage

Lauren Lopez directing. Jaime Lyn Beatty back. Will Branner taking over as Hidgens.

Also, if we raise more money than the original kickstarter (let’s be real, we will) then they can do the show how they wanted to. The way it should’ve been done. I’m so pleased for us but I’m really just pleased for Starkid and the Langs in particular. This is so lovely.

And I’m happy we’ll have a proshot of the show without Robert Manion in, erase that bitch!

Ok but DAMANGELA 2T1L WHEN??? 😩

And what if I said it’s my favorite song from NPMD??

I can’t get Dirty Girl - Starkid song from my mind…seriously it’s sooo good…

ngl i think the real reason people hate the idea of damangela as a duo is because they personally dislike damien and project themselves onto their favs so hard they can't imagine angela caring for him when they don't. people are so weird towards angela in that regard where they'll write off her own words about damien just so they can push this agenda that they aren't friends. like if you're actively dismissing someone's feelings and the things they've expressed to fit your agenda how can you say you care about them? damien and angela are my favorite cast members independently of one another (fan of them both through smosh and their other ventures off the channels) and over the past year i started to really enjoy their dynamic so damangela also became one of my favorite duos. being a fan of them both separately of one another allowed me to notice how often they talk about one another, praise one another, and generally appreciate one another even before i started seeing them as a duo. the hate they get just feels so... distinctly targeted in a very strange way and i can only explain it through the lens of it being projection.

I sadly think you might be right. Bc even with other Damien duos, people think he has no chemistry with anyone. Some people really think no one there likes Damien and he “tries hard” to be their friend which is not true. Angela specifically has shown time and time again she likes Damien and vice versa. As you said, they mention each other a lot and say nothing but nice things. And it’s fine if not everyone likes Damien, you don’t have to, but just straight up lying saying the cast doesn’t either is very terrible honestly

Ok- so I have been scrolling through posts for Cinderella’s Castle like a crazy person. Like you do.

Most of the posts are people squealing over their favorite bit currently, or just in general how much they loved it.

However-

Every one in 20 posts has someone expressing disappointment, and finding it lack luster.

It seems like you either are salivating over how good it was, or bored, and annoyed no one else was.

The main complaint seems to be “the characters are flat compared to other shows.”

As someone obsessed with fairytale fantasy, I just needed to come on here and say…

No duh.

Fairytales are not about the character as a person. They are about the person as a symbol/theme. Any detail about them suddenly humanizes them and makes them that much more relatable. But they are never, I repeat, NEVER, a fully realized person. Even in more modern fairytale adaptations, you don’t come for the character, you come for the story as a whole, and stay for the character’s “vibe” that allows you to create elaborate back ground details in fanfiction. The whole appeal of a fairytale is “less is more.”

Ella was raised as a Lady. She likes to paint. She sees herself as brave and tough, and wants to stop evil even if it kills her. She is clever and kind and has dreams. She is utterly practical in accomplishing her goals. She loves her family and friends deeply.

That is all we know.

We don’t know her favorite color, or if she’s a jazz girl, or even what she wanted out of life before this all happened, only that she misses her family.

That is the POINT. Ella, the cinder girl, the girl of ashes, is EVERY YOUNG GIRL WHO IS RAISED IN ABUSE. That is why the tale of Cinderella exists. So grandmothers and mothers could instill in children the deep knowledge that they deserve more, can survive, and do it without letting it break them.

Cinderella is someone you know because she is not pinned down with details. She just is.

Every character in a fairytale is that.

The stepmother is the abuser.

The Troll is a ruling class not from here.

The Princeton a fairytale is an escape and a stamp of approval of your morals. Not his own person. He is Deux Ex Machina. The fact that he HAS a personality here and it is awful is a subversion and holding up Ella’s personal determination over higher approval. She doesn’t need someone else’s approval to prove she is doing the right thing- she knows it, and holds it like the starlight in her hand. And that is GLORIOUS.

The Griswald sisters are a show of how even when you are utterly destroyed by evil, the fact that you were bright, and good, and true MEANS SOMETHING and still helps make the world better.

The frog knight is kindness repaid, and to not judge by appearances.

The mouse squire is that willingness to do something, even if you don’t have the skills, is important. Is worth something. (I saw someone talking about Crumb serving no perpose because he did not effect the plot. Of course he didn’t. The point of him is that he was WILLING, and that alone made her life better. And whimsy. Sometimes in genre, a thing is just for “vibes” and that’s what makes it genre. You cannot have fantasy without whimsy. He be whimsy.)

Even Tadius is a newer symbol of the “faithful servant.” Who does he serve? The Prince? The people? By following orders, or by using his wits?

And the Fairy Godmother. There is so much happening there, I could do a whole TedTalk. But basically, the fairy godmother is Help. It is offered help. She offers it because Cinderella was kind and had an anger in her screaming for justice. The fairygodmother in any story shows up to reward a virtue that the mc takes for granted. They don’t feel worth of the help, are even inclined to turn it down. The point of Cinderella is you TAKE THE HELP. Pride be damned, self worth be damned, you take it and you USE it to make things RIGHT.

The point is this:

A fairytale is about the themes. It is ABOUT the message. It is ABOUT how older themes get changed to fit modern understanding and turn into new themes.

What they did with ash and fire and starlight was incredible. The fact that they brought Fairy Godmother back to the Fairy who is a Mother Goddess was breathtaking because it made Cinderella’s quest for justice holy, not just empowered.

These characters are not flat. They are given thier depth by their role and themes rather than by the plot or personal details.

If you were bored by this, you don’t like fairytales. You may enjoy some of the trappings, but would like it better in a fantasy styled romance or drama, which is not the same thing.

This is not “connecting to humanity by connecting to a character not you.”

This is “connecting to something deeper and more than all of us put together through the use of symbology.”

Maybe that ain’t for you. Maybe you prefer to explore all this plane has to offer. That’s totally an acceptable preference. But don’t come in here and call it a bad show. It’s just not your genre.

(Also, since ya’ll seem to call out Hatchetfield stuff too- maybe you just don’t like genre centric stories 🤷🏻‍♀️)

Imagine hating Black Friday. Imagine hearing:

“Remember us in high school? The quarterback and the cheer captain. We were insatiable. When you shipped out, I thought I'd wait for you, then I met Stanley. At first he was so cool, he bought us booze and cigarettes. He had a car and his own apartment. We were kinda going together for about five months when I'm at the lake with some my friends. I'm flirting with some guy, you know, a little buzzed. Then Stanley's car comes driving onto the beach and he grabs this poor boy and just beats the shit out of him. Then he tells me to get in. After that, I didn't go to anymore parties. Stanley was a bad, bad man. People think he left me for some woman in Clivesdale. But that's not the truth. Last year, when your wife passed, I was thinking of going to the funeral. Stanley said he'd rather see me dead than hanging around Tom Houston again. Something about that woke something up inside of me. Because when we went our separate ways, it was fine because it was us, but who was he to keep us apart? So that night, I fought back. He chased me out of the house and into the woods. He was the one who brought the knife. It's funny, Stanley's the one that made me go to nursing school. That's why I knew where his femoral artery was. Not sure if I hit it, but I left him out there. Maybe he crawled somewhere for help, maybe he died in those woods. You say you killed your family? I hope I killed mine. So, Tom, you've got to forgive yourself. 'Cause if you don't, how's anyone ever gonna forgive me?”

And then just…moving on with your day. COULDN’T BE ME.

EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP!! ALEXA ITS HAPPENING!! THE APOTHEOSIS IS UPON US RAHHH 🦅🦅