Silly Little Podcast Men

Forever thinking about how Nora said Neil is cute and Kevin is handsome through careful grooming... It feels like there's a subtle implication there that Kevin has to put more effort into his appearance to look more attractive than Neil and this cagey mess over here is just Naturally Cute.

i had to put the book down sporadically and just. laugh out loud. because. what the fuck.

Reading tsh be like:

i feel like we as a fandom do not take advantage of the fact that andrew did a criminal justice major and told everyone it was for the meme. i genuinely believe he was going to go out there and change the world and make it better, even if it was just a little bit. i mean can you imagine? CRIMINAL LAWYER andrew minyard. OFFICER minyard. DETECTIVE minyard. SHERIFF minyard! BODYGUARD andrew minyard!!! the possibilities!!

neil, pointing at andrew: my last piece of humanity

wymack: so that's why he's so tiny

andrew: coach

wymack: above my paygrade, yes

Irish person here, yeah Kevin's name being "Caoimhín" but him going by "Kevin" is something people do 👍 I know a guy named Sean who goes by John in other countries cause it makes things easier. (Side note: "Caoimhín" would actually be pronounced like "kweev-een".)

Thanks for clearing that up!

Cute andreil facts from Nora’s posts that everybody forgets about

They actually do hold hands

When Robin moves to their dorm (during Neil’s fourth, Andrew’s fifth year) Andrew relinquishes his loft and shares with Neil the entire year

Renee was the first one to catch on Andrew’s attraction to Neil, but Kevin was the first one to catch on Neil’s attraction to Andrew

After Aaron outs Andrew and Neil’s relationship to Betsy (during The King’s Men), Betsy sends Andrew a message that says ‘’I’m happy for you’’

Andrew punches their pro team coach when he makes Neil play despite his injury 

They sit on each other’s laps 

Andrew is usually the big spoon

Andrew isn’t actually the top, they switch (by the time Neil becomes the Foxes’ captain, they are comfortable either way)

They go on dates, mostly long drives to nowhere, but also long walks on the beach or even a table for two

They stock coffee in their house in case one of them wakes up in the middle of the night because of nightmares

They don’t say ‘I love you’ because neither of them have ever heard anyone say these words directly to them, but there are times when Neil could’ve said them: during Aaron’s trial, when Betsy had a heart attack, during Nathan Wesninski’s trial, when they finally got their own apartment, when their team beats Kevin’s, when the US Court wins the gold medal

Their ‘I love you’ is in ‘Stay’, ‘Don’t go’, ‘Welcome home’

Neil likes forehead kisses, and Andrew is definitely tall enough to give them

Their first time was stressful for both of them, not only for Neil (we like to paint Andrew as this very experienced dude, and forget that Neil is actually his first too, which is sad)

Andrew discusses his and Neil’s relationship with Renee

Andrew buys Neil a camera when he noticed how much Neil loved the photos in the lounge

Andrew destroys the hems of every single pair of pants he owns because they are too long

One day they both stop asking

One day Andrew will learn to trust Neil with all of himself

Andrew is better with kids than Neil

When it’s nearly time for Aaron’s trial, Neil asks Betsy to be there for Andrew and says that he needs a mother right now

Neil practises picking locks, so he handcuffs himself to a bed

when Andrew finds him, he makes fun of his miserable attempts and leaves him handcuffed to the bed, stating that he did it to himself and now has to deal with the consequences 

The next day Neil handcuffs himself to Andrew, so he won’t leave him again

*So obvioulsy the statement ‘’everybody forgets about’’ is false, but I wanted to write down all of my favourites (even though I’ve probably forgotten about at least half of them)

This post also exists for writers who need some fanfic ideas, etc.

If you feel like adding anything I didn’t include, please go ahead, let this post be even longer it already is

I don't generally do sportball so in light of the realization that a professional team having multiple coaches who each specialize in one area is the norm, it's honestly no wonder everyone gave the foxes so much flack.

Nora says USC has 4 coaches and 3 assistants for 29 players. That's a coach to player ratio of 1 to 4.

The foxes, on the brink of getting disqualified for not having enough players, were at 1 to 8. And we know the year after that it jumped to 1 to 15. The disparity is HUGE.

It's no wonder Wymack was getting so much flack. That's not just being optimistic, thats a vanity project.

I can't imagine what other college coaches were saying behind his back.

I can imagine what they said to each other when the foxes won the championships.

art by @/m.emityy on X 🖤

no.1: dickieboy oldman

First impressions: he's nothing like me. he's a weird narrator, unreliable and all this account take on this dreamlike take of what happened. i mean seriously, his account of everything is almost a decade after the events and it's idealised and confusing, chock full of timeskips.

But. he's an incredibly written unreliable narrator. he leaves out key details, (like the fact he was drunk off his ass half the time) (or on drugs) and just really. he lets his own bias get in the way of everything. he still loves bunny and charles (charles somewhat less because he actually hurt someone he "cared" about) because he's a white man from california in the eighties. he doesn't care that they're but abusive hateful people because their prejudices don't actively hurt him. even though they harmed his friends.

and furthermore he kind of indulges in the same prejudices. he feels violent urges towards camilla (though it was really a passing remark and he doesnt act on them as charles does) and his internalised homophobia inhibits his relationship with francis whenever he's confronted with francis' gayness all over again. (although francis was flirting with him the entire time. so that may be a moot point.) so yeah. he's definitely a narrator alright.

the way he interacts with people is interesting because he feels the urge to lie about. well. everything to do with his past. and so he doesn't really HAVE a relationship with people until they realise he's penniless. which they notice pretty quickly. (even bunny does) (ie making fun of his offbrand ties etc etc) as the people around him spend mroe time with him and realise that Richard Papen is actually poor, they start treating him like a person.

Richard has a very distinct and interesting way of interacting with his friends individually. he builds up a distinct way to build rapport with each of them. (reassuring charles that he is liked, listening to francis and taking him to the doctors etc) because not only does he have a deep seated need to be like, BUT he wants these people to stick with him for life. he wants them to want him.

but onto the reason i wrote this. hes fuckin gay. the way he describes men is just out of this world. henry is described like he's a god. francis is beautiful and untouchable. charles is an all american dream. and camilla. is constantly described as boyish and looking exactly like charles. which means he's attracted to charles by proxy. he literally kisses francis back in the kitchen. he would've got on his knees for henry had he the chance. he was literally a charles apologist. he was so repressed it hurts my heart. he just didn't like women the way he described men. he wanted to grow old with francis in the countryside. camilla was the closest he was going to get to a man.

he's toeing the line between bicon and gay bastard but god does he walk it hard. he does it for us. i love and hate his junkie ass.