the hate I have for achilles like do I have tsoa yes have I read it yes do I like it yes its a good read do I like achilles out of that book and in it no because I read to much mythology before the book I just can't see him the way so many fans of the book do like he isn't someone ro idolised I feel so much for troilus he went somewhere he knew to be safe and was killed in his father's own temple NO WONDER APOLLO WANTED ACHILLES DEAD I WOULD TO achilles deserved to die a worse death then what he got and I'm not sorry for saying it
As much as I love Achilles and Patroclus from TSOA: Achilles is NOT someone to idolize.
The story of Troilus was an extreme reason: when he turned 20, he would supposedly touch the wall of Troy and it would save this. Athena told Achilles this and he went to ambushed Troilus by the well, in fact pulling him by the hair off his horse.
But Troilus was extremely beautiful- so much so that he was said to be the child of Apollo. Achilles was overcome with lust and tried to make advances.
Troilus escaped his grasp and ran to his fathers temple for shelter. There Achilles caught him again, had his way, and beheaded him.
ACHILLES WAS A GROWN MAN AND TROILUS WAS SAID TO BE A CHILD, MOST SPECULATED TO BE AROUND 12.
Was he a great warrior? Yeah. Was he a murder, r**ist, and p3do? Also yes.
Why are there so little stories about Apollo and Hyacinthus?
both of theses fics made me wanna cry they are both so beautifully written.
@minyard-05 your telepathy au is making me wanna sob because now all I can think of is every damn moment in those books like the final game for example aaron just hearing Andrews thoughts while he's running to get to Neil
hey if you read & liked my fic Talk To Me, you HAVE to read this incredible addition by @sunriseabram it's amazing <33333
one of the best things about having aftg books on kindle is when it comes to writing oc lore I can just grab the kindle go to the books and quickly scan through for the information I need (I say this as I need fo get the kindle without having my mum be mad that I'm stealing it again, I also have to read ad or listen to tsc so woooo reasons) but yeah elio lore will drop with his character desgin soon probably later tonight, or later tomorrow or on Friday idk yet his lore has changed alot to what it used to be so like neil may or may not be trans and may or may not be the parent who cares at this point (its my I'm who cares so me trying to figure out a way to actively have it make sense that elio does have a legal birth certificate where his surename is wesninski)
I am saying this just cuz I can somewhere when I do start writing a kit among foxes uhh I will give like random chapter snipits one of those that I wanna work on is cabin fiasco (this is also linked on my masterpost) in short cabin fiasco did start off as a incorrect quote thing that I have decided does happen so it will be from elio's pov and the title is cabin fiasco (ik I'm so smart for this[I'm not])
also like I think I'd have it be late trk or in tkm (after baltimore and the fbi) that elio gets closer to bee (I refuse to say why)
tw for the thanksgiving part in trk (does this need a tw oh well it gets one anyway, but like plz comment your opinion on it as I need help with that part)
another thing this is mainly like an input thing so like legit plz comment your opinion on this do I have elio accompany the monsters to nickys parents or do I leave with abby (or even bee) because I had the thought that if I did add him I could add andrew mentioning that Luther was still hiding dr*ke being in house when there was a toddler/young kid in the house (FUCK DR*KE HE DESERVED WHAT HE GOT [I lowkey think he deserved worse]) but also like that may slightly put andrew in an already worse state so that is only a thought not a full plan
so like plz comment your opinion on the thanksgiving thing I rlly wanna know or heck even dm me
can we give you like a show writer room for this, like I can picture that so vividly in my mind now, you need a writer room for this like if I was rich I'd give so much money to this project of aftg being a show
Maybe one way to do the Nathaniel/Neil thing would be to have him hearing everyone calling him Nathaniel when they’re really calling him Neil? Like similar to the effect they use when characters hear things a bit distorted and fuzzy, then we hear it switch to Neil and suddenly everything is clearer? Though that would put a weird filter on everything in the hotel scene but it could be restricted to names I guess idek
i could see that!! but that would still only be from the hotel though, right? does anyone in Baltimore call him Neil other than the team? but i can see it working. like a swirling glitchy kind of sound. like until Andrew calls him Neil his name isn't clear.
I could see it being set up earlier in the show in a flashback through a little tic that differentiates Neil from Nathaniel. When Neil gets back from the nest, the camera pov is from his perspective for most of it, or all we see are tiny details, his bandages, his hands, the view out Wymack's car window, until we get to the line where Wymack says "he sounds like him, but he doesnt look like him" or whatever and then Neil looks in the mirror and we smash cut back to him with his father before he ran away.
we can tell in his body language that he's trying to be his father's son. he does something, a deep breath, a raise in his shoulders, and something like a kubrick stare at himself with that signature Wesninski smile.
A season or two later we're in the car with Lola, and he looks at his hands, he traces the outline of a key into his thumb and then he does the same thing. A deep breath, movement in his shoulders and then that slow, creeping Nathaniel smile on his lips. and that's the end of that episode. there's a shift in his demeanor, even as hes pleading and yelling in pain, just something that paints him different.
(imagine the gifsets y'all. all for the game parallels: s2e08 | s3e06. nathaniel vs neil. can you see it? can you???)
ALRIGHT PEOPLE WE ON BALITMORE THE PHONE CALL WITH LOLA LIKE BTICH FUCK OFF LEAVE HIM ALONE, JACKSON AKD ROMERO (I think that's how it spelt idc anyway I hate that guy) just being in security guard getups like "yeah this will work defo", Neil looking at his foxes is just my heart is shattering I can't do this rn, him debting between speaking German to Andrew but then knowing that the fuckeds would react violently
"thank you" he finally said, he couldn’t say he meant thanks for all of it. the keys, the trust,the honesty and the kisses. hopefully Andrew would figure it out eventually "you were amazing." like him not being able to fully say what he meant, it fucking sucks like my heart is fucking wreacked. the riot part also fucking sucks.
neil being dragged away by the bitches I hate those three they can all die, fuck my heart the way it just drops lola asking him questions and him figuring out that it was Nathan's circle with the birthday surprise, lola explaining what she's gonna do to him like why, LEAVE HIM ALONE (like ik that neil gets out but like still it hurts) him being tortured also fucking hurts, lola just asking her brother for the dashboard lighter, and then being burned him calling ber sick is just like neil I love you but like bro you gonna get tortured maybe don't try and rail them up (I try to think I'd do what neil does but I probably wouldn't)
the part where lola keeps wanting to know where mary is and nwil just repeating "she's dead" and then lola just asking about his teammates and then him not wanting to tell her shit is just so brave of him.
"he traced the outline of a key into his bloody burnt palm with a shaky finger closed his eyes and wished neil josten goodbye" the way he switches to nathaniel because nathaniel belonged to his father, Neil belongs to the foxes and abram belonged to Mary and now belongs to Andrew is just like such dramatic irony that it hurts, nathaniel just going to wash his hands so they don't get infected is just such a moment like he was on his death bed or basement or floor.
I'm sorry but Nathan just coming down without wearing shows LIKE SIR YOUR BASEMENT IS PROBABLY INFECTED WITH SO MUCH BACTERIA WHY GO DOWN BAREFOOT JUST WHY. Patrick walking down behind the man like dud why let the seriel killed wear no shows or socks just why. can I say Nathan's accent is so funny like ik we meet him when he's going to kill nathaniel but like it's a funny accent.
this makes it so much more funnier like abby there like be sure to take breaks for using your binder neil just confused
I saw someone posting how Transmasc Neil makes sense to read, cause he is not taking his shirt of in front of people and has a different name now and he is terrified of people finding out his „real“ name. But you know what would be even funnier, that all the foxes suspect Neil being Transmasc and drop hints that they support him and Neil is just terrified that he is found out or just really confused.
Neil: Has anyone seen my Binder?
Matt:*internally screaming: Neil trusts me with his secret* No.. sorry but i can help searching for it.
Neil: Thanks i really really need to find it and— why are you looking in th closet?
Matt: *a few hours later* I’m sorry L I can’t find it. But we could order a new one online no fret.
Neil; *confused* I am not sad that my binder is gone. I need the stuff in the binder.
Matt:…
Neil:…
Renee: I changed my name after I was adopted by my Foster Mom, I built myself a new identity.
Neil: *Oh God, does she know about my Past?*
Renee: I mean our situations aren’t really comparable, but, I understand to some degree.
Neil: *Holy, she definitely knows*
Renee; Neil, is a handsome name, you picked good.
Neil: *ready to bolt*
Allison: Neil. I can’t stand seeing you in the same clothes anymore. I understand that those clothes are comfortable and help you hide—
Neil: *screaming internally, oh god she knows.*
Allison: but you are going shopping with me. I managed to make Seth look like a prince. I can help you too.
Neil:.. what?
Nicky: Neil, handsome you are so manly. One of the manliest person I know.
Neil: Okay… *takes a step backwards*
Nicky: You don’t have to feel uncomfortable changing with us. No one will judge you.
Neil: *Does he know about my scars*
Nicky: but don’t worry if you’re not ready. I understand, really i do. I wont out you.
Neil: *out me? But i am not in anything*
Some of the foxes are talking:
Neil: What’s going on?
Andrew: Oh they are talking how you Identify as a Unicorn.
Neil:… are you on your meds again? What.
Andrew: *looks Neil in the eyes* You can be a Unicorn even without a horn.
Neil: *confused*
Andrew: *walking away* *nailed it*
I second this notion like coming from someone who watched American tv shows growing up in the UK I have been asked if I was actually American because my accent is mixed between them both
neil's accent is going to be a bit of a weird combination due to his mother being british, him being primarily raised by her, but also being born and (mostly) raised in the US, factored in with all the other places he would've had to blend in to on the run. so naturally his accent will shift slightly to fit whatever language he's speaking, as it does with most multilingual people, but when he's speaking english he's going to have a weird intersection of american/british. now won't be all that noticeable most of the time but i think it would come out on occasion possibly whilst drunk or pissed off about something. ergo i present neil josten yelling "you'd fucking like that, wouldnt you?" at somebody on the court and like half of the team just turn and stare at him for a minute because what the fuck was that
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so I'm on the final book woooo we love this honestly doing lore stuff for ocs or just scrolling on my phone while listening to the audio books is so much more easier than picking up the fucking kindle to complete my reread when im already down two of the books anyway, the character development the relationships is just so lovely to hear again
"I warned not to put a leash on me"
"I didn't" neil said "you put that leash on yourself when you told me to stay no matter what, don't be mad at me just because I was smart enough to pick up the other end of it"
hell yeah one of the best interactions in my opinion I'm looking so forward to baltimore I can't wait for it man "I wanna see you lose control." oof that was so great the back and forth those to have is just amazing.
alright its his birthday woooo locker room mess woop woop, let's go (low-key I can do the happy 19th birthday junior in December because I'm 19 then) BLOOD SPLATTER (poor boy he doesn't deserve this) God damn that sucks him going through a slight panic is just so great like it sucks.
"HAAPPY 19TH BIRTHDAY JUNIOR!" LETS FUCKING GO HECK YEAH well oh well way to go shut down your panic all you want "carrie stunt double" only one of matts best lines in this books love you for that dude
idk my view of bruce's parenting (of dick especially) is informed by the fact that i will always see him as a teen dad. at least with dick. i feel like canon and readers generally agree that bruce would have been a young teenager when dick was born and like... yeah obviously bruce's approach to parenting is going to change. at a certain point he's going to stop being a stupid guy in his early 20s and realise "i can't actually be besties with this child i'm raising and responsible for, and also maybe i should put more supervision into the equation instead of just fully letting him run wild when beating up evildoers at night." and dick would understandably get pissed about it, because at that point he's coincidentally at the age where you want your parents to give you Less supervision and rules! and of course bruce seems like a different, maybe even better parent with the next kids, because 1) that's how it works when you gain parenting experience and 2) bruce was not parenting dick as well as he ought to have been those first few years because he was like 23 and should have been at the club
hi uhhh I'm aroace ghost rat ting here, 19 years I use any pronouns as icba to care what you use should clarify that I'm a massive bitch
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