I’m Late To The Party But Oh Wow.

i’m late to the party but oh wow.

i would like to start this off by saying that 5’10 isn’t tall. at least for american men that’s pretty average, so already johnny wouldn’t be considered “tall” by all means — nor has he ever been. in fact, i would say the opposite is true for him; he’s been written (in Human Torch 2003) to be INSECURE about his average height.

if anyone is taller, you could make the argument that peter is because once before did canon make the mistake of claiming he’s 6 foot. that was a fairly minor adjustment to his original height (5’10) that didn’t go anywhere, and i’m personally fine with that. it’s okay for them to be the same height. maybe even preferred that they are

all fandoms struggle with this issue so i won’t pretend this is exclusive to spideytorch, but i’ve noticed a trend in the way the majority of this community treats both characters — and what i mean by this is too many people plague this ship with heteronormativity. there’s no need to infantilize/feminize either one of them. it’s weird, it’s gross, and it’s time we start treating johnny and peter like the 30 year old men they are.

neither of them are “small beans”. johnny’s former firefighting training wouldn’t have been possible if he was a twink (the process is rigorous), and peter… i mean… why that man shouldn’t be a toothpick SHOULD be self explanatory. LET THESE MEN BE BIG.

(+++ adding my two cents on the “johnny’s built like a supermodel” comment because i’m ultimately a huge johnny fan and have to defend his honor — no. supermodels are almost dangerously skinny because of the way designers make their clothes. again, he wouldn’t have been able to be a firefighter if he was that thin. likewise he wouldn’t be able to carry multiple men around, or ben, or gatecrasher. that man needs muscle that’ll WORK for him because he doesn’t have the advantage of having super strength lmao).

Peter is taller than Johnny. And not cause of the Spider bite or anything. He's always been tall and lanky.

I respect your opinion but to me, Peter Parker is small bean and will always be small bean