6b4t
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Runawaysiren's account may be terminated!!!
They are currently trying to archive her work but may not be successful in getting all of it.
about cloven hooves
clovenhooves.org is a forum for feminist women. It was created in order to give women a place to promote woman-centered news; share feminist resources; and learn, discuss, and chat with one another. clovenhooves aims to be an expansion of the feminist and woman-centered web, alongside places like ovarit.com, spinster.xyz, radblr, r/fourthwavewomen, and other feminist/pro-woman online communities.
There is an application process to join, this is intended to keep trolls and bad faith actors at bay. You can read about the process in this post if you are interested in joining.
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Ovarit is permanently shutting down.
https://ovarit.com/o/Announcements/676340/ovarit-is-closing
Sending this to your blog hopefully so that those who’ll miss Ovarit might look to your website as the successor. No pressure lol
Thanks. 💜 Ovarit and clovenhooves are slightly different, in that Ovarit is/was for "all women" while clovenhooves is for radical feminist/radfem-leaning women. So while I don't think it'll truly be a successor, I do hope it offers online respite for the feminist women of Ovarit.
repost of my floral venus design for international women’s day (featuring suffragist version) im grateful to the female revolutionaries of my own country with all my heart for everything theyve done to make it possible that i lead my life the way i do today. of course this goes for every woman in the world who has ever fought for us and is curtently doing so. i hope i can contribute a lot throughout my life as well as we still have a long way to go.
free to use with credit <3
if you start reading books again. you will feel at least a little better. I promise
To the hypocritical lesbians: It's unthinkable for het and bi women to stop associating with or even just stop dating men for the same reason it's unthinkable for lesbians to stop having sex and romance though. Sex and romance invite complacency and jealous guarding and hoarding behavior, and controlling behavior, in every group. You get more done if you're single and your mind is clearer. You should lead by example. Love addiction is holding us back and causing us to be cruel to our fellow women, often in the same way males do. Teach us how, because female liberation is more important than relationships. No matter what your sexuality is. Lesbianism won't die out if we take a break to win a war. I'd argue it will grow when we win.
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Posting this again because basically this is my bible
My radical take is that I don't trust you if you're pro natalist or if you have kids. I seriously can't take anyone seriously trying to talk about making the world a better place when they've already given up the game. Sorry hon but you can't act like you actually want to make things better when you've already made it clear you don't care about the conditions you're bringing your kids into. Having kids is quite literally the most basic way to say "yeah, this is fine, I'm totally fine with my kids living under these conditions." Having kids right now is quite literally supporting every fucked up system because guess what all those systems need? More people to run them. If you actually wanted to make a change, you would have made an effort to make the world a better place instead of having kids just cause you want em.
women reacting to this all have meaningful insight into why it’s happening. meanwhile, men:
We must stay focused sisters, we must stay focused. Imagine procrastinating whilst some red pill, white supremacist total waste of space human is locking in and getting better opportunities than you.
Not everything needs to be announced, do not put a target on your back.
With the rise in popularity of things like 6b4t, 4b, decenter men, etc I'm seeing a lot of women bragging to maIes about it which will not help us. At the end of the day maIes do not care about our happiness, look at how they get off on womens abuse, they constantly seek to break women down at every twist and turn, they dont actually give a fuck about whether single childfree women are the happiest demographic out there. Maturing as a single childfree woman is realising that it's not just about hating maIes but being indifferent to them, not caring about their opinions at all. Only recognise them for the threat & parasites they are. I dont care to prove maIes wrong. This doesn't mean I ignore or hold positive sentiments to them, I just focus on centering myself and womankind in my life instead. I often see women bring up points about single childfree women & our happiness to maIes when maIes already know that.
Let's assume that maIes dont know that women are happier when we're single, why does it matter that they know just how much happier women are when they're single? Given the way maIes have treated women, do you really think maIes give a fuck about women being happy? Do you really think that if maIes didnt know how single childfree women felt before & when they find out how happy single childfree women are they'd be pleased about it? Or that they'd care?
For every single childfree woman is a maIe without a rape maid, a maIe without someone to pummel their legacy through, etc yk how it goes. MaIes are already feeling the effects of our freedom & they're starting to retaliate. In south korea female only parking spaces were replaced with family spaces, in the USA there's project2025 & how they want to coerce women back into the nuclear family unit, in the UK many sexual offenders are being released from prisons due to "overcrowding".
Back to my point on indifference, part of that is realising that all of this shit goes beyond witty one liners on the internet. MaIes are fully aware of everything they do and how they benefit from it. To the women who brag to maIes about 4B et al, what is the end goal here? Is it truly decentering maIes as claimed or is it some type of strategy to spook maIes into being good boys? Because I've seen women try to be threatening with it like "maIes need to get their act together or we they wont be chosen/we'll 4B!" and this is still maIe centric in a way. Sounds harsh but many womens tiktoks, tweets, of this nature tend to have maIe partners or are still looking anyways so it only makes things harder for those actually serious about this. I feel like many women believe at some point maIes would grovel back to them & 'apologise' for their actions and start being better like no; maIes have intentionally done everything through force & violence including wanting a partner & children. MaIes arent going to change nor will ever change on their own. MaIes dont just want parters or children, they want this at the expense of womens lives; our goals, our dreams, and our humanity so they sure as shit dont care about our happiness.
There is thing as centering maIes even in a negative way, I saw it described as "chaotic misandrist" on the pinkpill site. Many women talk about how they want nothing to do with maIes but then make it their entire personality. Many women on tiktok are using 4B as some titillating leverage over maIes or as some divine femininity woo woo femme fatale shit. All of that still centers maIes. What needs to be realised is that it's not all about maIes. I dont solely do this as a "fuck you" to maIes, will it be? Yes. But that is not my primary reason for not dating or reproducing. Dont make this a thing where you solely want to get back at maIes. MaIes dont negotiate so attempting to barter is a waste of time and tiptoes on maIe apologism because even if maIes apologised for all the things they've done I would still not forgive them. I would still want the worst for them. Ik in that situation most women would forgive them without a second thought.
Women saying "act right or else 4B" are saying this because they still want to make it work with maIes. If there's negotiation it means a connection still wants to be formed which misses the entire fucking point. It aint about maIes it's about yourself and womankind. This is why it's hard for me to trust other women because it wont take much for them to cave as has been throughout history. I dont care what moids think about all this, as I said my primary concern regarding maIes is the threat they pose. I dont care whether they'd ever change. Anyone serious about this wouldn't be dangling the prospects of not partnering with them in maIes faces especially bc part of what leads to this is realising that maIes are dangerous & there's no reforming them. Dangling this in their face is poking the bear and maIes have no limits as to how low they'll stoop to get what they want. They'd kill themselves to prove a point.
So for the love of goddess, stop bragging to maIes about this. Doesnt matter if they say you'll be a miserable cat lady like bet. Deep down we all know they need us more than we need them. This isn't to say to hide & be ashamed of it, but it wont do women favours exposing our play to our predators.
I heard somewhere that south korean grandmothers who were not given access to education in their times are now being enrolled in educational institutions because the declining birth rate is causing a shortage in students for the korean education system. Idk if this true or not but another reason for us to stay childfree. Way to go Korean feminists! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
tryna lock in on my fitness journey and be strong
please can i get reasons to work out that arent linked to patriachal beauty standards
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tryna lock in on my fitness journey and be strong
please can i get reasons to work out that arent linked to patriachal beauty standards
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updated radical feminist library
the radical feminist library, by aggrolesbo/ladielabrys, is great. but it has a lot of repeated and illegible files, and without the proper authors so it gets difficult to search for things. I cleaned it put and then added a lot more books recommended across the internet. Plus very good releases by suny press and routledge.
i separated the trans folder from the rest of the library so you can send it to people who would otherwise be turned off.
If you have any recommendations i would be glad to add it!
spread it far and wide please
i know we cannot recount all the ways women have been feminists throughout history much less backtrack through centuries of badly recorded history to find when feminism "started" but i still was put off by this article putting a name and date to who "started feminism"
it deeply concerns me that some popular takes against 4B from political women are “but who will birth the next generation of radical feminists?” and “but how can we change the world by refusing to participate in society?” as if the only morally correct way for women of “mature age” to participate in society is to marry a man. i also notice two key essential gender roles in this rhetoric . . .
I wish the women jumping on the 4B bandwagon would understand these points:
https://www.tumblr.com/femtoscooter/766688743202684928?source=share
https://youtu.be/b3KswFqFwt8?si=bidXJHUHJ32v5YcH
Anon, you are the one with a fundamental misunderstanding of 4B.
The post and video you sent me both cover the same topics, so I'll simply address them as one.
First, the author of that post is genderkoolaid. This is the same individual who posted a factually incorrect, misrepresentation of abuse statistics, in opposition to women's separatism. After my thorough explanation of how and why they were wrong, they chose to block me rather than admit to their misrepresentation.
All of this is to say, I am entirely unsurprised at their misrepresentation of another female separatist movement.
Sex strikes and 4B
Both posters erroneously compare the 4B movement to a sex strike. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the movement. A sex strike is a transient protest meant to induce political or social change. For example, women may organize a sex strike to be concluded only once particular abortion protections are passed. (Like all protests, historical sex strikes have had mixed success.)
The 4B movement is not transient. Women who commit to 4B do not stop and later return to men. It is also not designed to directly induce a specific political or social change. The 4B movement was fundamentally a reaction to the intensely patriarchal culture in South Korea. The women who joined this movement did so because they believed that a life without men would be better than a life with men. They are not "withholding sex" until South Korean men stop being misogynistic; they have taken stock of their reality and decided that completely separating themselves from men is the only feasible reaction to their circumstances.
Yes, this focus on women's lives and circumstances, and the mass social rejection of the status quo, is likely intended to bring about social change (i.e., make men stop acting as they do), but this is a byproduct of the movement, not the origin.
All of this is to say: the 4B movement is not a means to an end, it is both the means and the ends.
But American women aren't doing it this way
Some are, some aren't. I'm entirely unsurprised that in a culture steeped in postmodernist theory, some women are attempting to distort the meaning of the movement. While I do not read Korean, I imagine this is frustrating to the woman who created and committed to 4B.
The continuation of this postmodernist pattern is unfortunate, and I truly wish the women who meant "sex strike" said so, rather than co-opting another movement. That being said, the mainstreamed discussion of female separatism is still positive as it brings women's attention to the possibility of alternate choices. (And having men's typical, misogynistic, violent reactions on display to the mere suggestion of such an action have been, as always, enlightening.)
Comparison with political lesbianism
Again, this is a misunderstanding of both the 4B movement and political lesbianism.
Political lesbianism is a practice where heterosexual or bisexual women falsely claim to be homosexual.
This is not the same as bisexual women practicing female separatism (i.e., only forming relationships or having sex with other women) while still indicating they are bisexual. It is also not the same thing as heterosexual women choosing to forgo all romantic and sexual relationships (e.g., major parts of the 4B movement).
The issue with political lesbianism is the homophobia inherent in intentionally claiming you are homosexual when you are not and the associated sentiments (e.g., claiming you can "choose" your sexuality).
The "male" loneliness crisis
The video repeats the misinformation concerning the "male" loneliness crisis/suggests men are uniquely affected by social isolation. Again, this is patently false. There is a general loneliness epidemic – one that affects women and men equally – not a male-specific crisis.
General rejection of female separatism
The rest of their commentary is the standard rejections of female separatism (sprinkled with pseudo-liberal buzzwords).
I'm not going to re-hash every defense and benefit of separatism here, but here are a few highlights:
The same post from above using data to show how female separatism would result in an unprecedented reduction in violence against women
Someone else's post about the difference in segregation and separation
Someone else's post about the framing of separatism as an option
My post about how many men are misogynistic
My post about the fatal effects of misogyny
Actually just the entirety of my #male violence tag and #patriarchal culture tag
In any case, the 4B movement is a form of female separatism. (And notably, not a conservative movement. It is specifically designed to disrupt the current status quo and prioritize women who are marginalized under conservative ideology.)
Conclusion
So, no, women do not need to "understand these points", because "these points" are either factually inaccurate, a misunderstanding of the terms and movements involved, or a simple rejection of feminist principles with a pseudo-liberal veneer.
References below the cut:
The history of sex strikes. (2019, May 16). BBC Three. https://www.bbc.com/bbcthree/article/1fc04f3e-3128-4be7-a78a-28ea31db4101
057. Lysistratic nonaction. (n.d.). Global Nonviolent Action Database; Global Nonviolent Action Database. https://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/category/gene-sharps-198/057-lysistratic-nonaction
Palmer, O. (2022, January 31). Political lesbianism remains a contentious debate in lesbian feminist circles—Is there a generational divide? Feminist Current. https://www.feministcurrent.com/2022/01/30/political-lesbianism-remains-a-contentious-debate-in-lesbian-feminist-circles-is-there-a-generational-divide/
Kuk, J., Park, H., & Norma, C. (2018, November 8). Radical feminism paves the way for a resurgent South Korean women’s movement. Feminist Current. https://www.feministcurrent.com/2018/11/07/radical-feminism-paves-way-resurgent-south-korean-womens-movement/
Lee, J., & Jeong, E. (2021). The 4B movement: envisioning a feminist future with/in a non-reproductive future in Korea. Journal of Gender Studies, 30(5), 633-644.
*hits feminist blunt*: I don't wanna ever see any praise for a man or the male sex. "There are good men out there who work hard on being good." And I'm a law abiding citizen, where is my fucking national award?
We'll be talking about the right to live as free people EVERYWHERE and you're praising a man for thinking rape is wrong? The bar is below the earth's crust. Liberation for all my sisters, not praise to some man for doing the bare fucking minimum. Decenter men from your frameworks pls.
Happy 2025 to women and girls only ❤️ may you get everything you wish for this year
Feminist books that I recommend all women to read.
This Bridge Called My Back: Writings by Radical Women of Color edited by Cherríe Moraga and Gloria Evangelina Anzaldúa
S.C.U.M. Manifesto by Valerie Solanas
Sister Outsider by Audre Lorde
Who Cooked the Last Supper? The Women's History of the World. by Rosalind Miles
Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men by Caroline Emma Criado Perez
Right-Wing Women by Andrea Dworkin
Men Who Hate Women: From Incels to Pickup Artists: The Truth about Extreme Misogyny and How it Affects Us All by Laura Bates
Does anyone know any newish radfem or rad leaning books? Like 2010's to present day.
We made a huge mistake by introducing 4b movement to these moronic American liberal feminists. I think just encouraging them to separate themselves from the males would have been enough. And gradually we could have introduce them to each aspect of the 6b4t. Now look at them ruining the hard work and sacrifices of South Korean women. I am certain there will come a time when american liberals will take the entire credit for the 4b movement shoving SK women aside just like they did with feminism. We shouldn’t let them do this! We need to take back 4b from them before they take it from us and ruin it.
CALL TO ACTION!
EDIT THE 4B MOVEMENT WIKIPEDIA PAGE
When the narrative is controlled by men, of course, the Wiki page is going to be awful and revisionist. So it is really up to us to edit the page. Right now the top editor is a Korean male. The article is semi-protected to prevent vandalism so you need to have an account to edit, your account needs to be at least 4 days old, and you need to make 10 edits.
1. Create a Wiki account if you have not done so.
2. Complete 10 edits (these can be basic edits that fix basic spelling or grammar errors.
3. Wait for 4 days
4. EDIT the hell out of that page.
While you are waiting please do research. I would recommend using Naver (Korean search engine), looking through the WOMAD website (they are credited with creating the movement), and reading over Wikipedia rules and guidelines.
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